Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Rodimus Prime, Jul 26, 2006.
I don't think it'd count as political..
I was ready to close it, but it won me over with the "Super smooth"
I don’t know man, I just don’t think Hitler, swastikas and all the thing they represent should be turned into some joke.
You do know swastikas are actually meant to represent something else completely right?
Not any more. The sad fact is that it no longer matters what they DID represent; the public perception of the swastika will always be linked with evil, sick fucks who muredered millions of innocent people.
I think its funny. I don't see anything wrong with making a joke out of Hitler and what he represents. Mel Brooks was once asked by Mike Wallace about his poking fun at Hitler and Nazis and Brooks replied "there's only one way to get even. You have to bring him down with ridicule...if you can make people laugh at him, then you're one up on him. And it's been one of my lifelong jobs has been to make the world laugh at Adolf Hitler."
The Swastika is actually a religious symbol which orginated from Hinduism...
I got a little chuckle out of it..
I agree. It is kinda like we did with Sadam Hussein in Hot Shots 1 & 2. We mocked him pretty well in both and got good laughs out of it.
Mel did a great job mocking Hitler in Producers and in History of the World Pt 1 with the promo for HOTW pt 2 with Hitler on Ice.
I am more shocked at Hogan's Heros. It was on merely 20 years after the war ended, and like rattrap007 said, Mel Brooks mocked him in The Producers, which was in 1968.
You wouldn't think 20 years would be enough time past to make light of that situation.
I don't see a problem with it. The best way to take power away from anything is to mock it.
The one Hitler used was sort of like a mirror image of the one we use. That used to always freak me out as a kid, that we'd have swastikas with our religious stuff and then I found out that it wasn't a bad thing for us, and that Hitler just used it for his own purposes.
I saw this a couple of months ago. I thoght it was funny.
Same kind of deal as Mel Brooks, show the Nazis as bumbling asshats. The guy that played the commandant was actually Jewish, and he loved playing the idiot. Plus, that was set in a POW camp, not a concentration camp.
Even during the war, the Axis was ridiculed in US propaganda. Bugs Bunny cartoons were full of it.
There were a number POW camps that did not adhere to the geneva convention. Sometimes the POWs were treated in the same way as the jews.
I think it is a testiment that despite society being more "desensitized", our PC ways are making it less tolerant to spoof war and violence.
Yeah, it's a reversed swastika that Hitler used, I think...
Swastikas have shown up in Buddhist emblems and such as well... My mom gave me a buddhist necklace and on one side it has the swastika and everyone who's seen it, I've had to explain the whole thing over and over...
I see a difference between the sort of thing Mel Brooks did in The Producers make Hitler look like a fool, or what Charlie Chaplin did in The Great Dictator using humor to call out Hitler in 1940 long before Americas involvement in the war and this that turns Hitler into a rap star dancing with girls and rolling in a sports car. It’s trivializing his evil not mocking him.
And any past religious meaning the swastika has becomes irrelevant as soon as it’s put on that red arm band, or tattooed on the neck of that skin head I saw at the military antique store buying his young son a Hitler Youth belt buckle a few years ago.
And I prefer Hitler cats to rap. That guy in the video didn't do a thing for me.
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