Hercules vs Giant pricing?

Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by robb0429, May 30, 2012.

  1. robb0429

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    So...why are these sets so differently priced? I know the combined mode is a bit smaller, but why is this?? its a pretty big difference.
     
  2. ORIO

    ORIO Plant-Based Bot Super Mod News Staff

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    Basically, Hercules bots are voyagers and the Giant bots are deluxe sized. Also, they come from different companies and probably different overheads.
     
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    Same as orio.

    I was expecting pics when I saw the thread...
     
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    i expected so much more from this thread...
     
  5. Kuma Style

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    As a FPJ fanboy, it paints me to say this, but:

    Because Hercules is fucking awesome.
     
  6. ORIO

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    Changed the thread title to avoid further confusion :) 
     
  7. seali_me

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    No problem.

    This should be the official comparison thread for both beasts. :) 

    Not just pricing.
     
  10. Renidragon

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    That dude looks so freakin' happy with his Devs...es.

    I'm in the MT Giant crowd, but based on the price. Also... I'm not sure who started the idea that the Giant guys are Deluxe sized... but they're definitely bigger than your normal deluxe. OK... that's not fair, as "normal deluxe" right now is DotM or Prime deluxe size. When I think "normal deluxe," I think of the Unicron trilogy deluxes, or the first two TF movie deluxes. The Giant figures are definitely bigger than those. They're also bigger than Cybertron Hot Shot, who is one of the taller deluxes in the last decade. They come close to Prime voyager-size, though (this is where I have to specify RiD - I have FE Bulkhead and he's much more massive). I'd say about on par with Starscream, as far as mass and general "amount of material" goes.

    I can't speak for Hercules. I wish I could afford him. I think I like Herc's individual figures more, and Giant's combined mode more... hard to judge without each in hand.

    Now... if someone were to offer me a complete Hercules for my complete Yellow Giant (you know, when the last set comes out)... I think I would, only for the monetary value and to experience TFC's take on it. I think they both rock. I can afford Giant. That's why I got it. :) 
     
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    Hahaha I noticed that too. It's soooo fanboyish. I can't blame him but still. I think you can hear the guy who's filming hyper ventilate at some point. :lol 
     
  12. Computron34

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    Hmm....I would do a week or months trade. Would be interesting to experience Giant having messed with Herc.
     
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    Agreed. I mean the 2 torso figures are almost the same size in bot mode as Dr. Crank and Heavyload.
     
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    indeed Gaints toys seem to keep being understated as just deluxes when they tower over some classics.

    Really I do wonder why the price difference is so huge when the mass cant be more then 25% difference But then I think when Herc was planned their was a general acceptance that 3rd party toys have to cost X amount but Gaint is maybe one of the cheapest 3rd party toys yet.
     
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    the Maketoy versions of constructicons aren't really deluxes. They are close to Voyager Classics Prime's height.
     
  16. Tiller

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    Completely different designs and scales coming from two different companies with different operating costs and production numbers.

    It really isn't indicative of quality, just what it ended up costing the two companies. Giant is smaller so it makes more sense that it is cheaper. Meanwhile Herc is larger and more chunky in all the modes so more plastic means a higher cost.
     
  17. Venksta

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    This is not a jab at TFC Toys, but one of the reasons with the price difference was Maketoys being smart with the tooling. I noticed with the prototypes I handled, that some figures shared the same parts or limbs. That means that part had to be tooled only once, saving overall cost. As well, since Maketoys waited until all the limbs were designed, before tooling, that helped plan the tooling out too. TFC went head strong into getting each figure out, before they had the last two figures even designed fully. Plus other things mentioned.
     
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    I see a lot of shared parts between hercticons as well.
     
  19. echotransformer

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    All good reasons listed...here's another quick one:

    First to market = highest demand = higher price.
     

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