Hardest to explain reference?

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  1. Geminii

    Geminii Toyetic multiformophile

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    We've all been there. You see something in a Transformers episode, or movie, or on a toy, or in a comic, or even online, and it's brilliantly funny or poignant or dramatic or triple-self-referential.

    And it's so good you find yourself trying to explain it to someone with no knowledge of Transformers beyond "Wasn't there a red truck one...?", but you realize fifteen minutes into the explanation that in order to 'get' the reference in full, they need to know about so much of the Transformers mythos and history that you could spend the next six hours providing the backstory for what might have been a quarter-second visual gag.

    So what, in your opinion, would take the longest time to explain compared to the actual amount of time or effort put into the reference itself?

    I'd nominate the Skids, Metroplex and Counterpunch gags in the Cybertron Enquirer, most of the fandom shout-outs in Beast Wars, and Longarm Prime getting Cliffjumper to dispose of a blue Autobot racecar.
     
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    Not really. At least not for me. Obscure or specific references are aimed towards the fans who know all this stuff and we're the only ones that really get any kick out of it. Explaining them to someone who doesn't know (and probably doesn't really care) is usually a waste of breath in the end. Using geek bravado to explain some callout to a five-second clip in Masterforce or the like will most likely get you a nervous chuckle, weak smile, and an awkward glance from the TF lore layman you've been explaining it to.
     
  3. Digilaut

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    Why would I want to explain a very hardcore reference to somebody who's not into it?
     
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    As my 5th grade teacher told us before every test (and she gave us a 20 minute time limit):
    You either know it or you don't.

    and i use in-jokes or references as an IQ test of sorts.
    I don't do it with TF material, but when i sit and watch MST3K with friends or my nieces, i like to see just how much they get.

    and i have learned over time that some references even hardcore TF fans don't get because they weren't looking for it. I have overlooked quite a few on first viewing.

    back to your question, i usually don't try to explain something- either they get it or they don't.
     
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  6. chugway

    chugway ming mong ping pong

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    :D 

    i love the idea of some kind of Transformers Quotient test score that we could wield like a throbbing veiny t-peen.

    (except i don't because i know fuck all about transformers. :(  )
     
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    Try to explain why there's previous wielders of the matrix who are not Transformers.

    Or why and Cybertron used to be Organic, how the moon's got claw marks in it and why they's a huge chunk out of cybertron.

    What the Matrix Flame or the pit is or explain the decepticon command structure on Cybertron.

    Or Starscream origin story.

    The G2 storyline or the origins of the Decepticon Empire

    What a Vok is.

    Explain every toy called 'Prowl'

    why Ice Pick is ironic.

    How Pretenders work

    How Targetmasters work

    How Powermasters work

    How Headmasters work

    what a neo-tecter is.

    The origin of Primal Prime, or Sentinel Maximus

    Or the deeper truth behind Thundercraker and Skywarp's deeper personalities and talents.

    Who Sunstorm is

    Why is there fossils on Cybertron

    why Ravage is a cat even on Cybertron

    Why some Cybertronians have wheels on their robot modes when they have unwheeled vehicles.

    Why Cybertronians have interior cabins.

    How the quintessons relate to Cybertron, Vector Sigma and Transformers in general. and why they are biomechanical beings.

    Explain the previous 'ages of cybertron' or the history of 'The great war'.

    Explain Nebulans to someone

    Who the Primes are and the back story of Vector Prime or A3 / Alpha Trion.

    Any of that should take more than a few moments of explanation.
     
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    In a factory in China ?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    To speak to the original point.

    A Transfan might have chuckled when Jazz did the turret trick on Brawl - in TFTLAM but a non transfan wouldn't have seen anything special about it.
     
  9. chugway

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    when a car and a robot love each other very, very much?
     
  10. jametron

    jametron Release the Kraken!!!!!!!

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    Word!
     
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    Once I tried to just explain some friends that one, that you shouldn't yell "BEAST MODE" when you want to switch to doggy style. They didn't get the joke.

    I thought they would at least get that one, because I haven't watched Beast Wars either and both are a bit younger than myself, so chances were good they might have caught a glimpse of the series back then...

    Guess I'll never try to tell such jokes to friends again :D 
     
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    Can't comment from a non-TF fan perspective on this one, but to me, it's freakin' hilarious! :lol 
     
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    I always wondered how they go to the toilet or if they leave their exosuits for such stuff like eating, shitting, taking a shower and stuff...

    indeed :lol 
     
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    I never bothered explaining TF references to anyone other than my brother.
     
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    Oh God, this totally happened to me last year at TFCon. :lol  After we watched Human Error Part Two, my dad was confused as to why everyone was laughing so hard at all the references and it took me hours to explain them all to him.
     
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    Took a while to explain

    1. The Seekers' helmets in Animated Decepticon Air.
    2. Megatron abusing Starscream in ROTF
    3. and finally the oodles of references in Animated Garbage In, Garbage Out.
     
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    I'd actually like to see the answers to these ones
     

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