Heavy/Scratch: Grimlock - TF/GI Joe Crossover

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  1. Pimp My Toy

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    There are two pieces of concept art I have seen so far that I find awe-inspiring. This is one of them...
     

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    More pics.
     

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  3. encline

    encline customizer of love TFW2005 Supporter

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    as a huge fan of TF/JOE crossovers, I am looking forward to seeing where you take this...

    Why are you starting with foam?
     
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    probably just a "sketch" if you will
     
  5. encline

    encline customizer of love TFW2005 Supporter

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    yeah, that is what I was thinking.....


    Will this be built out of styrene?
     
  6. Rumble02

    Rumble02 Radicon of Obliticons

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    wow nice
     
  7. Pimp My Toy

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    Yes indeed. I suppose I could draw plans, or use a CAD programme, but for this one I thought I'd try to do a prototype in foam. I didn't want to go straight into the building and find out down the line that the proportions are all out of whack. Hence, I plan on getting all the major pieces done in foam and then replicate the final part in styrene. I've got a sheet of 4mm thick styrene that should make it feel nice and sturdy.

    That said, the trouble with concept art is that there are always some cheats with perspective. Is he too tall? I derived the original size using the 1:19/3.75" scale from the real WW1 tank dimensions and the concept alt mode. However I've already had to remove a 1"-2" midsection as he would either be too lanky or a hunchback. I will probably reinstate the midsection as flaps that swing around his back to close up the gap.

    So any input on the proportions or tips from an experienced master ;)  are greatly appreciated.
     
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    GabrielPrime One of the Thirteen

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    The TF vs. GIJOE crossovers are my favorite,
    Your work really looks promising, I’ll fallow this tread closely
     
  9. Zildjian

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    Fucking awesome!! I too have been working on one, but it is very different. I love it!!! Can not wait to see the build start!

    Also, you will want to purchase multiple thicknesses of styrene for the build. One thickness will not be enough.
     
  10. Pimp My Toy

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    Totally agree; I've got a variety of thicknesses that I'll be using whenever the occassion requires them. I just mentioned the heavy duty stuff as that'll be main constituent of the structural stuff. Areas that will take less pressure/weight will be in lighter grades with appropriate cross-bracing, etc.

    Can't wait to see what you're working on. Any hints? ;) 
     
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    I started a Grimlock about 4-5 months ago with the Megatron I am making but kind of stopped when Megs got closer to completion.
     
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    for something in between styrene and the polystyrene foam you are using now may i humbly suggest polyurethane foam / ren-shape?

    you can buy it in different densities and it is much easier to carve and shape than the stuff you are using now. you can also do actual panel lines and smaller details than with polystyrene foam and you can also seal the polyurethane foam with foam sealant to make it harder and better surface fidelity if you want to be sanding like crazy :) 

    are you using a hot-wire cutter or just working the polystyrene foam by hand? the chamfered edged on the chest are sweet :) 


    edit in, link:
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    the higher density you go the more expensive this stuff gets but the harder the surface is. the higher densities are just like working with a nice block of wood.
     
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    That looks awesome and the scale is ambitious. I did a voyager sized prime/hiss a while back. grimlocks gonna be vicious!
     
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    this sir, is fantastic info!!!
     
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    looks like your using rice crispy treats as your building materials...
     
  16. Pimp My Toy

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    Thanks for the tip; that looks like some cool material. Unfortunately I'm UK based so it's going to take a bit of work to find it.

    The stuff I've used is called Space Foam and is essentially styrofoam (I tried a bit of expanded polystyrene and ran away screaming). It's all hand cut with a craft knife. I will get around to ordering a hot wire as it would be so much easier, but I refused to pay the extortionate markups at my local hobby shop! I tried saws and knives and found the best alternative is a craft knife with a sliding blade (where you snap off the end when the tip is blunt). When fully extended it makes for a nice, deep, easy cut.

    I won't be detailing the foam - once I've got the prototype basic shape I'll replicate each part in styrene.
     

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