When and where did this debate start in the TF fandom? Was it because the G1 cartoon version of Grimlock has blue eyes and some of the toys (most notably G1 grimlock) had red eyes? Where do you stand in this debate and why? I think that Grimlock should have BLUE eyes in any form (toy, cartoon, or otherwise.) This is my opinion because I believe he should stay true to his G1 cartoon self and also because all Autobots should have blue eyes and all Decepticons should have red eyes. Thanks for taking the time to read this and/or post!!