Good News About [spoiler] in AOE

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by BluRayHiDef, Jun 30, 2014.

  1. BluRayHiDef

    BluRayHiDef Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2011
    Posts:
    1,119
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Likes:
    +0
    Concerning Ratchet:

    I think that Ratchet is still alive or that he can be brought back. When Lockdown ripped out his Spark, he didn't destroy it. So, Ratchet's Spark can simply be placed in a new body.
     
  2. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Veteran

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2009
    Posts:
    5,687
    News Credits:
    99
    Trophy Points:
    262
    Location:
    Istanbul, Turkey
    Likes:
    +5,757
    Instagram:
    But Lockdown is destroyed beyond repair. If it's on his ship, then it's nearly impossible to find.
     
  3. transgeek2345

    transgeek2345 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2009
    Posts:
    358
    Trophy Points:
    142
    Likes:
    +462
    Sorry, Ratchet's gone.

    Idea sounds too complex for both Bay and his writer to implement.
     
  4. JayEm

    JayEm オートボットさん

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2011
    Posts:
    570
    Trophy Points:
    112
    Location:
    日本
    Likes:
    +7
    Nah...he's dead Jim.
     
  5. QLRformer

    QLRformer Seeker

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Posts:
    18,431
    News Credits:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    302
    Likes:
    +4,969
    It'd be good news if they would bring back anyone beyond Optimus or Megatron.
     
  6. closetrat

    closetrat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2008
    Posts:
    3,855
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    262
    Likes:
    +315
    I would be over the moon if the good doc came back - but I wouldn't hold my breath.
     
  7. Ceasar121

    Ceasar121 Wants a Toxitron repaint!

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2007
    Posts:
    3,117
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    262
    Likes:
    +357
    Well... Megatron reincarnated based on his head existing... It is possible Ratchet could reincarnate if they say they didn't finish melting his head down.

    I have a feeling we'll see some clones or reincarnates based on KSI now likely being Autobot headquarters in the future.

    I wonder what Galvatron is going to do. He does have the knowledge to create an army. Just needs materials....
     
  8. BluRayHiDef

    BluRayHiDef Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2011
    Posts:
    1,119
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Likes:
    +0
    Well, in my personal cannon, he is still alive. Recall that Optimus said a Transformer's spark is their soul.
     
  9. SouthtownKid

    SouthtownKid Headmaster

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2011
    Posts:
    21,695
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    322
    Likes:
    +5,557
    I disagree. It's Bay and his writer who had the idea for Lockdown to do that in the first place.

    It's the first thing I thought when I was watching the movie. "Oh, Ratchet's not dead then!"

    The head is not important. The spark is the consciousness. Which is why Megatron IS dead. Galvatron is just a copy of Megatron's memories. But it has no spark. It will think like Megatron and act like Megatron, but it isn't alive.


    It's their ship now, and they have all the time in the world. Lockdown was not an idiot. I'm sure he had some cataloguing system for all his acquisitions.
     
  10. iceburn9

    iceburn9 Constructicon

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2008
    Posts:
    1,472
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    232
    Likes:
    +382
    Seeing as how they made an effort to make his death memorable and emotional, I highly doubt they would bring him back.
     
  11. SouthtownKid

    SouthtownKid Headmaster

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2011
    Posts:
    21,695
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    322
    Likes:
    +5,557
    They might or might not. But they purposely left themselves an out if they decide they want to bring him back. As obscenely expensive as the Transformers are to animate, you can bet that no animated action happens by accident or is without purpose.
     
  12. Minh'T

    Minh'T Descendant of Primus

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2011
    Posts:
    1,529
    Trophy Points:
    137
    Likes:
    +11
    Facebook:
    In the comic adaptation of the first film, Megatron didn't kill jazz by ripping him apart. He "ate" Jazz's spark, absorbed it to get more power. Lockdown must have done the same thing to Ratchet's spark
     
  13. Hanzkaz

    Hanzkaz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2012
    Posts:
    2,618
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    222
    Likes:
    +1,231
    The Spark Chamber business offers the chance to bring apparently dead Autobots back in a later movie (Hopefully in Movie 9 or later).

    Also, the strange way that Galvatron/Megatron was reborn offers the possibility of the return of other deceased Decepticons. Megatron's head was a mess, but it was apparently enough to bring him back. I wouldn't be surprised if he was able to somehow 'Respark' life back into what's left of Shockwave, Soundwave, etc at a later date, though they may turn out to be a bit strange. I imagine KSI have them in storage somewhere.

    I've got the feeling that the movie makers were regretting killing off some of their characters in the earlier movies. People apparently like Transformers with more personality, and some of the now-deceased TFs were missed opportunities. This offers a way to remedy that.
     
  14. Starscream Gaga

    Starscream Gaga Protoformed This Way

    Joined:
    May 19, 2011
    Posts:
    8,631
    News Credits:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    247
    Likes:
    +2,915
    It was simply showing that Lockdown collects trophies. Its not in Lockdown's nature to just kill without taking something he wants first.

    If you think Ratchet's coming back, you're going to be disappointed. He's dead, Jim. Move on.
     
  15. Metal Sonic

    Metal Sonic Young, dumb and full of Transformers toys

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2013
    Posts:
    1,082
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    197
    Location:
    Over there.
    Likes:
    +1,655
    Ratchet isn't Generation 1 Starscream, man. Without a body to compliment the Spark, I'm pretty sure it'll just fizzle out eventually from lack of support. And who's gonna fix him? Ratchet?
     
  16. Ephland

    Ephland Let's Go Rangers

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2008
    Posts:
    11,294
    News Credits:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    312
    Likes:
    +5,074
    This thread title probably should be edited so that it reflects OP's personal canon. Because in the official canon, Ratchet is as dead as Dillinger.
     
  17. uruseiranma

    uruseiranma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2007
    Posts:
    2,396
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    262
    Likes:
    +254
    Sorry OP, your hope for Ratchet is as transparent as the little boy who claimed his father is still coming home, even though he just walked out that door 12 years ago to get cigarettes.
     
  18. Coffee

    Coffee (╭☞ꗞᨓꗞ)╭☞

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2013
    Posts:
    5,833
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    247
    Location:
    Mississauga Ontario
    Likes:
    +1,052
    Jetfire's spark wasn't destroyed either...
     
  19. Necromaster

    Necromaster FEAR ME MORTALS

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2011
    Posts:
    9,210
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    247
    Location:
    Michigan
    Likes:
    +1,232
    He dead, son.
     
  20. tonyformer

    tonyformer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2011
    Posts:
    13,659
    News Credits:
    56
    Trophy Points:
    272
    Likes:
    +3,995
    Ratchet may ir may not come back. None of us can honestly say for sure one way or the other. Its not fair to tell the OP of this thread to get over it and Ratchet isn't coming back.

    Megatron has had his Spark vaporized by the AllSpark and beheaded and he's come back. OP had his Spark blown out completely and he's come back. Ratchet's body was destroyed yes. But none of us truely know how long a Spark in its Spark Chamber can last. It may be an indefinite thing. And even if it "fizzles out" as someone else said, it may only need a jolt of power to recharge it. Transplant that bad boy in a new body and a new Ratchet is born.

    If you haven't guessed, I too think he can come back and this leaves it wide open to do so "if" they want to in a future movie. Again "if" they want to, the option is there.
     

Share This Page