G1 transformer question....

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  1. PeteAutobot

    PeteAutobot autobot in training

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    I got my hands on a rare g1.....he is a sludge...he has the takara stamp with the 1980-1984 date...and made in japan...I showed him to a friend he said its a fake....anyway I went online to check those fakes and mine dose not look like the fakes or ko issues...i need help...thanx..
     
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  3. PeteAutobot

    PeteAutobot autobot in training

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    pic of sludge

    Thanks for the help....the only thing is that he has a black chest peice thats all that looks different....ive never seen one....i checked all the conterfit ones online and he looks nothing like it...i was thinking mabey someone painted him but he dosnt look repainted...mabey his is a rare figure or a mistake....? I wanted to upload the pic so u can see him...but i dont know how...lol...
     
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    PeteAutobot autobot in training

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    Ok here is the pic
     

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    Perhaps Maz would know.
     
  6. tusko

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    No pointy teeth or wings?
     
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    tikgnat Baweepgranaweepninnybong. TFW2005 Supporter

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    Looks to me to be a pre transformers Diaclone or something. The faction symbol looks like its been peeled off another toy and applied. Check for the rub sign, I'm willing to bet there isn't one, as G1 rubsigns are virtually impossible to remove intact.

    The thing with fakes is that they are slavish, and I wouldn't expect a black torso on a fake.
     
  8. PeteAutobot

    PeteAutobot autobot in training

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    No i checked those ko figures already...its wiered i dont know what to think...its just that chest piece....thats black...mabaey a color issue that went wrong....it looks cool tho...and he wasnt painted the paint hasnt been tampered with....
     
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    PeteAutobot autobot in training

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    U guys think i should try to return it to the person that did the trade with me....? I wanted to take pics of the date and the taraka stamp to show u guys...i have a megatron ko its cool for display but its fake this thing looks and feels pretty g1....any suggestions...?
     
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    I'd keep it! I think its quite unique and a great figure.

    Dark Sludge! oooo!
     
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    That WST is the only one I can find with a black part there.

    I looked through all the KOs (red part is visible in alt mode). So are the international versions. So is the Gig version. So is the Dinosaur Robot KO. Diaclone is blue. Prehistory Animal is either red or yellow.... but its obviously not that since PA had brown plastic instead of gray.

    Update: Dinosaur Robo and Robosaur/Brontosaurus have plastic chests instead of die-cast.

    I'll keep looking around.
     
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    Not sure why his chest is black but it looks cool.
     
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    Not seen one of these in a while. A number of years ago a collector on an group called Autocon posted pics of one (sans stickers) and thought it to be Diaclone. Speculative discussion went back and forth, but honestly no one has yet to figure out what it is, or even if it's legit or not. Could be two separate cases of painting, but i doubt it.

    Nice to see another one, would be interested to see more pics, copyrights etc.

    Thanks for sharing!

    Ras
     
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    PeteAutobot autobot in training

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    I appreciate the help from everyone in this website....and im gonna take more pics closer pics so u guys can help me solve this mystery...but for sure dont get rid of it right guys...
     
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    Well certainly don't send it back. At the very least it's interesting. A regular sludge can be at any time. It's worth the risk even if this turns out to be something other than a legitimate variation. Just my 2 cents.

    Ras
     
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    Here's the original Autocon message a collector posted about it

    "I took for granted that most of you were aware of the Diaclone black
    Sludge variant but it seems, judging from Mr. Deever's article, that
    most of you are not(or you just don't want to share the info, or you
    missed his post concerning his article). If you were aware, you would
    undoubtedly have shared your information with him & saved me some
    keystrokes. Either way, I'll upload a pic in just a few mins. Many TF
    collectors think this thing is just a rumor, but those people are
    WRONG. I have seen two and heard of one other. GIG or Takara? I can't
    remember. I think the one in the pic that I'm about to upload was
    sold by a seller in Italy. I'm 99% sure of that. IMO, this figure may
    be just as rare as the heralded Diaclone Swoop."

    Apparently I was sent this article by Brian Deever and I helped him with it, so in about a week I'll be in a place where I can try and access this email.

    I'll come back then with anything I find, there was a picture I need to find too.

    All the best
    Maz...knew this bugger would come back one day

    EDIT: Found the picture!!!

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    Fishdirt Tin Toy Transformer

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    Heck yeah, if that bad boy is legit you may have hit something really nice to own! Keep it and keep it well (or sell it to fund getting tons more TFs if that's your intent). I wish I could come across something so rare.
     
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    Ok....im starting to get excited....hopefully he is a rare figure....and ligit...
    Im thankful for all the help you guys keep giving me....and ill take some more pics over the weekend still at work...can wait to get home tho....
     
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    I have that blue Slag from the picture above. His horns are broken though. :(  I wish I could find another.
     

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