Previous Threads Soundwave Box Sponsored by: Agesthreeandup.com August 5, 2007 http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=145958 Hubcap August 5, 2007 http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=145929 Devastator Giftbox Sponsored by: Agesthreeandup.com August 4, 2007 http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=145767 Mirage August 3, 2007 http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showpost.php?p=1505652&postcount=92 Before I start ... All participation is welcomed. If I missed anything please let me know. These differences are ones I found just by combing over the pictures. I had an extremely difficult time finding an MOSC red Cliffjumper to compare off of. If you have one, snap a pic, and let me know! This "guide" (if you can even call it that) is a work in progress based off of the only clear repro'ed image we have. Credit to Duocons and the folks at thetoyvalley.com for the repro'ed Cliffjumper image. Keep all ethical "knockoff" discussion out of this thread. This is for educational purposes only. NO DEBATES PLEASE. Again, the purpose to this is to educate eBayers. There are AWFUL sellers out there who claim these pieces as being real. I attempted to rank these in order of importance. Position 1 is the "dead giveaway". If you see this, you know it's not legit. There are some color differences, but those have to be ignored. Many variables with originals (fading, picture lighting, etc) make color matching against repro's inconclusive. 1. Dead center card punch. The originals compensated for the off-centered card weight by moving the hole punch. This way, the toy would hang straight. The reproduction has a punch right down the center. Hang this, and the right side will flop. 2. Font issues. Looks like this part of the card needed to be re-engineered. The reproduction people scan existing cards. These cards may have bubble removal damage. After the scan, they go back in and fix the graphic. The font isn't exactly the same one used in 84. 3. Positioning of "THE" The repro'ed card has a "THE" which is: 1. too low - it's completely below the wavey color separation line in "TRANS" 2. too close - it's almost touching the "TRANS" 4. Cliffjumper graphic size It's almost identical in every dimension ... I did find a place where the head isn't quite right. 5. Unconfirmed, but under suspect - The card's grid seems to be off. I supposed this happened in 1984, but I have a feeling this won't be the only MOSC repro'ed CJ like this. - The bubble's edges seem to be textured. I'm almost sure the originals had a flat finish. - confirmed, 8/5/07 - When a minibot is packed in bot form, I could swear that a preview image of the car form is shown. - *update* the minibot's bubble should be directly placed in the lower right-hand corner. There's no buffer space between the bubble and card's edge. See the Hubcap guide for more details. - confirmed, Might Gaine 8/5/07 Again, if you have an MOSC CJ or even a pretty card, let me know! Thanks!