I just had a revalation today. Michael Bay's version of Transformers is modern day G1. Not the designs, but the story and the way it is told. Hear me out on this. the first piece of this idea came from the thread about devastator's balls. Someone commented that, "devastators balls = nipples on the batsuit". the commenter was refering to "batman and robin" and "batman forever". These movies got bashed when they came out, but I believe they are brilliant interpretations/homages to the 1960's tv show as opposed to the comic book. Until someone responded to some comment of mine by saying something like, "the plot of lord of the rings is good. The plot of transformers is not." Ironically, this person was an avid and rabid supporter of the movie, so it struck me as very odd that he would say that. What made me put these two ideas together was reading the reviews in the "one and only" review thread. here are some things that started going through my head: 1-the plot of most g1 episodes stunk. the plot in general of ROTF apparently also stinks. 2-goofy humor:check 3-annoying humans are in both 4-incompetent enemies: somehow, the decepticons can't bring themselves to step on the humans. I am sure there is plenty I am missing, but my point is made. I feel like I have been looking at this movie with the wrong eye. I also think that this is something that could help some people get along better here. geewunners and fanbays have much more in common than they realize. What fanbays need to realize is that geewunners got massively spoiled by the 1986 movie. In every aspect, that movie was better than the cartoon is was based on. this is what makes geewunners' expectations so high. I think it would be really cool if we could come together on this thread and talk about how similarly lame or goofily funny G1 and the new movies are. I am sure there has to be a balls joke somewhere in g1.