G1 head designs.

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  1. IACON

    IACON "That's Vector Sigma?" TFW2005 Supporter

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    I was looking at some pics of 15-17 centuries Japanese armors for a Samurai. Then as I was looking at certain helmets and face plates, something stroke me:

    These looks very much like parts of the G1 TF heads....

    For example:

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    I can clearly see Megatron's helmet, Ratchet/Prowl front horns etc. (Not to mention the face plate)

    So I led me to think that the designers of the first transformers (1980 Diaclones and Microman) probably designed the robots heads according to these old traditional helmets and armors.
     
  2. flamepanther

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    Almost definitely. In fact, there's a long history of Japanese robot designs being modeled after samurai. Certain Diaclone design elements were borrowed from (or at least very similar to) the original Gundam, which is pretty much universally considered to be samurai-inspired.
     
  3. IACON

    IACON "That's Vector Sigma?" TFW2005 Supporter

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    Wow I didn't know that.
    IT makes a lot of sense btw.
     
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    Not only head designs, but entire robots, too. Cybertron Megatron/Galvatron has a very samurai look to him from his head to his feet (which kind of look like sandaled feet if you use your imagination). Then again, maybe it's just me...
     
  5. Sol Fury

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    Looking back, a lot of Super Robots used various suits of armour for inspiration. Diaclone and by extension Transformers basically grew out of that heritage.
     
  6. Backstop

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    hmmmmm never thought of that.
     
  7. SmokescreenSWE

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    Just look at Sol Fury's sig for examples :) 
     
  8. Dark_Convoy

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    I remember talking about this a while back with a female coworker when I brought some Alternators into work to show off to a few people asking about them, she said they looked like "Samurai wearing car parts as armor".

    I think that it's really apparent when you look at some of the modern heads, even the faces look like the samurai's face plates!

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    The original Rhinox toy was a sword-wielding samurai from head to toe, but that got almost entirely lost when Mainframe got ahold of him and reduced the kibble.
     
  10. Ziero

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    Pretty much the original Gundam was a mix of a Samurai armor and a Storm Trooper from star wars as gundam was slightly inspired by Star Wars originally(the gundam was originally supposed to be all white/black iirc). Though Star Wars, by the same coin, was inspired by an old Japanese Samurai movie and so forth. I remember seeing the Star Wars theater poster side by side with the movie poster it was inspired by and there were a lot of similarities.

    So yeah, no surprise TF's were based on some samurai designs as well.
     
  11. spamo123

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    I was looking at the concept art for the Empire Strikes Back and the designs for the storm troopers were also based on samurai.
    It's like a circle.
     
  12. Drax

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    I always did think of some transformers as samurais specially the C. Megatron that was mentioned before. I just also thought that those ideaswould be a bit stupid= /
     
  13. Cobalt Agent

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    Funny. I always thought Prime's head was like an army helmet.
     
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    I thought it was a combination of a Gundam-like head and a cap like a trucker would wear. He does turn into a truck...
     
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    fo'rly. makes sense to me!
     
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    Finally, some logic that people can agree upon, nice observation.
     
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    I always loved TFs that really had that "samurai" look to them... of course later on, there were figures where the resemblance was much more explicit, like Banzaitron, BW Battle Unicorn, and of course Bludgeon. And of course, on top of that, there are the TFs who are based on a "ninja" motif as well... notably Energon Divebomb, though it's much more obvious in his blue Shadowhawk repaint.

    In a similar vein, I always found it interesting that the Decepticon symbol actually resembles a fox... which in Japanese mythology carries a strong association with shape-changing, deception and malice.

    It seems like a pretty strong theory, except for one thing... does anybody know if the Autobot and Decepticon symbols were designed in Japan or by Hasbro?

    zmog
     
  18. The621

    The621 Fuck you, that's why!

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    Rodimus didn't look like a samurai. He looked more like a ground trooper, with the helmet and such.
     
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    IIRC, they were designed in the U.S.A., but modeled after the toys (Bluestreak/Prowl/Smokescreen and Soundwave, respectively), which were in turn designed in Japan.

    I think the kitsune resemblance is probably just a coincidence, but a very cool one nonetheless.
     
  20. Golden Age

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    Actually theyare taken from all types of armor. Optimus Prime is based on a mermillo Gladiator from ancient Rome, wheras Megatron is more like a WW2 hlemet.
     

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