G1 DVD cartoon series question

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  1. Greenspan

    Greenspan Monetary Maestro

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    I just recently got Rhino G1 DVD box set Season 1. Yeah I'm late in the game :) 

    Now I don't mind the video quality, its just like I remember when I was young. However I noticed some weird things about the sound. More specifically sound fx.

    Is it just me or does blaster sound fx sound weird as if they were added ? Also the intro theme seems to switch from "can sound" to normal sound ?

    I know this must've been addressed a thousand times but any help would be appreciated.

    And are all the Rhino box set have these sound problems ? If so is there any other choice ?

    Thanks

    Greenspan
     
  2. FreshDebesh

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    They definitely added sound effects to the episodes, as well as to the bumpers and intro.
     
  3. Greenspan

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    But why ? They feel so out of place its more than annoying.

    Has Rhino ever explained why they added sound fx ?

    And is there another comp[any putting out G1 cartoon series on DVD that are authentic with no added sound fx ?

    Thanks

    Greenspan
     
  4. Orodruin

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    There's a bonus disc on one of the sets (can't rememeber which one) that a long feature on the remastering process. I watched a little of it, but I don't remember anything with the sound.
     
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    I think seasons 2 and 3 have the option of having either the new sound effects or the old sound effects.
     
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    I think they did a good job with the fx. I watched the entire series and never noticed anything out of place. Had it not been for other mentioning it on the boards, I'd still not know about it. Heck, I can watch an ep right now and still not be able to pick out the enhancments. All seems original to me. *shrug*
     
  7. Sol Fury

    Sol Fury The British Butcher Administrator News Staff

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    I've never noticed it, but I think the later sets released in the UK didn't have the added effects, and our season 3 set has the alternate ending to Dark Awakening (the non-dubbed one that doesn't lead into RoOP).
    That said, the later sets can turn off the SFX anyway so you're not really gaining that much by going the extra mile to import.
     
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    http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=97262

    This is the complete series and movie. Good quality and under $50 shipped.
     
  9. Superion33

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    Hey there. I initially signed onto this site to ask that same question. I wanted to know whether the Rhino DVD box set was the best collection or if there were other better versions.

    You're right, the sound is altered and the picture is altered too sometimes. I think in one instance Ironhide either transforms backwards and in another Starscreams colors are mixed up for the other seekers.

    Here is a good webpage that compares the UK and Rhino versions:

    http://kenshiroh.tripod.com/dvd/transformers_s1/

    Frankly, from what I could read on the thread the other poster posted, I'd go with that Chinese copy. It has better special features, no messed up sound, and no messed up video. Its the plain TV version without any digital remastering, I think.

    After reading the rest of that article, I decided to purchase that set also. I'll let you know what I think of the set.
     
  10. Chris McFeely

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    The added noises, by all appearances, were added in to create a 5.1 audio sound mix, and were *supposed* to be limited to the 5.1 audio track. On one disc's worth of episodes in Season 1, the noises made it onto the 2.0 tracks as well. Season 2, Part 1almost got it right, with only four episodes having altered 2.0 tracks. Unfortunately, the 2.0 tracks for ALL the episodes on Season 2 Part 2 and the Season 3-4 sets had the extra noises (but Season 3-4 had the added extra of an "original broadcast audio" option that was completely unaltered). The UK sets were a bit different - the Season 2, Part 1 set was the same, whereas Season 2, Part 2 had only one affected episode, and Season 3-4 had totally clean 2.0 tracks. On the other than, ALL of Season 1's episode had them, as did the "Reconstructed" release of the movie.

    Personally speaking, it is utterly and totally beyond me how anyone can listen to the altered tracks and NOT hear the extra noises. They are very clearly sharper and LOUDER than the existing audio, often drowning out the original soundtrack, and *none of them exist in the original sound library of the freaking show.* They're entirely new sounds that stand out because of that, and they feel so preposterously out of place and overused.

    What makes the matter worse, without mincing words, is that we have been *lied* to regarding it. Magno Sound, the studio responsible for the new mix, have claimed more than once that the sounds were always in the episodes, and that we could simply "never hear them before" because of the limitations of 80's equipment. Bull. Poopies.
     
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    The things I notice most is the cannon sounds during the commercial break transformation scenes.

    When Jazz turns into a robot for example, and you hear some bangs that dont even fit. Same thing with the Lazerbeak clip

    Just does'nt sound natural anymore. The new sounds werent mixed in well at all.


    Or when Prime calls Scourge "Scmourge".
    That was probably already like that though.
     
  12. Jokers Wylde

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    On the UK release, I've noticed that you can get most of the annoying new sounds by not selecting 5.1 in the audio setup, although a few times its forgotten this setting by the time the next episode starts playing.
     

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