G1 Alt modes - Autobot Cars

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  1. Nevermore

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    The thread is about finding photos of the G1 Autobot Cars.

    For the rules, see here.

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    Alt mode still to be identified (exact model if possible):

    Ironhide - Toyota Previa? Nissan Onebox van? Cherry Vanette?

    Notes:
    The color scheme was Hasbro's creation (the Diaclone version was black).


    Ratchet - Toyota Previa? Nissan Onebox? van/ambulance? Cherry Vanette?

    Question:
    Was the vehicle actually used as an ambulance in real life?





    Alt mode identified, looking for photos of real-life counterpart:

    JafCon exclusive black Convoy/Optimus Prime - Freightliner Cabover Engine truck

    Ultra Magnus - Freightliner Cabover Engine car carrier truck

    Question:
    Did the freightliner actually get used as a car carrier? Does a car carrier trailer that looks like Ultra Magnus' exist in real life?


    Ultra Magnus Diaclone/"Movie Preview" version


    Ultra Magnus "Shining" version



    Stepper - Porsche 935 Turbo (1976 model)

    Question:
    Did the 935 actually exist in black? I'm fairly certain the flames are not based in real life, though.


    "Anime" Streak/Bluestreak - Datsun 280ZX

    Diaclone "blue Bluestreak" - Datsun 280ZX


    Prowl - Datsun 280ZX (police cruiser)

    Question:
    Was the 280ZX actually used as a police car?

    Notes: The Diaclone version came with "Sapporo City" decals. The same decals were also used for the 1991 European "Classic Heroes" re-release.


    Hound - Mitsubishi J59 Army Jeep

    Notes:
    "Jeep" vehicles were originally produced by Willy's. Today the brand is owned by Daimler-Chrysler.
    Mitsubishi had the license for Japanese market at one point, the Diaclone/Transformers toy is based on the Mitsubishi version.


    Detritus - Mitsubishi J59 Army Jeep


    Tigertrack - Lamborghini Countach LP500S (yellow)

    Deep Cover - Lamborghini Countach LP500S (black)

    G2 Sideswipe - Lamborghini Countach LP500S (black)

    Question: I assume the G2 deco was not based in real life by any chance?


    Red Alert - Lamborghini Countach LP500S (Fire Escort)

    Question: I don't think the Countach was ever actually used as a fire chief car? Could we use a white version instead?

    Notes:
    The deco was Hasbro's creation (the Diaclone version was a police cruiser, see Clamp Down).


    Clamp Down - Lamborghini Countach LP500S (police cruiser)

    Question:
    Was the Countach actually used as a police car?



    Sunstreaker - Lamborghini Countach LP500S ("Super Tuning", exposed rear engine)

    Question:
    From what I understand, Sunstreaker (who was the first Diaclone "Car Robo" mold) was a fantasy modicfication of a Countach. The question is, was that modification based on anything (existing custom mod) or just the product of the Diaclone designers' imagination?

    Note:
    The color scheme was Hasbro's creation (the Diaclone versions were either red or a police cruiser).

    Diaclone "red Sunstreaker" - Lamborghini Countach LP500S ("Super Tuning", exposed rear engine)

    Question:
    See Sunstreaker.


    Diaclone "police Sunstreaker" - Lamborghini Countach LP500S ("Super Tuning", exposed rear engine; police cruiser)

    Question:
    See Sunstreaker and Clamp Down.


    Mirage - F1 Ligier JS 25 (or JS 11?) Formula 1 racer - link 1

    Notes:
    The sponsor name "Gitanes" was changed to "Citanes" for the Diaclone and Transformers versions. The Italian version used "Ligier" decals instead.


    Diaclone red Mirage - F1 Ligier JS 25 (or JS 11?) Formula 1 racer



    Wheeljack - Lancia Stratos Turbo – link 1

    Notes:
    The sponsor name "Alitalia" was changed to "Alitalla" for the Diaclone and Transformers versions.


    Diaclone "Marlboor" Wheeljack - Lancia Stratos Turbo – link 1

    Notes:
    The sponsor name "Marlboro" was changed to "Marlboor" for the Diaclone version.


    Inferno - Mitsubishi Fuso fire engine


    Artfire - Mitsubishi Fuso fire engine

    Question: Did the real-life version actually exist in the Artfire colors?



    Grapple – Mitsubishi Fuso crane


    Road Hauler – Mitsubishi Fuso crane




    Trailbreaker - Toyota 4WD Hilux



    Diaclone blue Trailbreaker - Toyota 4WD Hilux



    Diaclone yellow Trailbreaker - Toyota 4WD Hilux



    Hoist - Toyota 4WD Wrecker tow-truck

    Note: The Diaclone version had "Wrecker" decals which were omitted from the Hasbro Transformers version (but not from the Italian "Trasformer" version by GiG or the Takara Transformers version).


    Diaclone red Hoist - Toyota 4WD Wrecker tow-truck



    Skids - Honda City Van



    Crosscut - Honda City Van



    Diaclone red Skids - Honda City Van





    Photo of real-life alt mode found, open for discussion:

    Optimus Prime - Freightliner Cabover Engine truck – Link 1
    Image found at:
    http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/r_macneil.htm


    Jazz - Porsche 935 Turbo (1976 model) – link 1, link 2, link 3, link 4, link 5, link 6, link 7, link 8

    Notes:
    The "Martini" advertizing was changed into "Martinii" (two "i"s) for the Diaclone and Transformers versions. The US "Cookie Crisp" promo version (1986?) did not have "Martinii" decals. The Generation 2 version (1992) had different decals. The Takara reissue (2002) and the Hasbro reissue (2003) replaced the "Martinii Racing" decals with "Agent Meister" decals.

    Information about the car:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_935


    Bluestreak - Datsun 280ZX Link 1, Link 2

    Note:
    The color scheme was Hasbro's creation (the Diaclone versions were either blue with a silver hood or silver with a black hood).
    Diaclone and G1 version had "Fairlady" decals; reissues replaced that with "Streak" decals.


    Smokescreen - Datsun 280 ZX Turbo racing car (Electramotive Team) – link 1, link 2

    Notes:
    Driven by Don Devendorf
    The driver number "83" was changed to "38" for the Diaclone and Transformers versions.


    Sideswipe - Lamborghini Countach LP500S – link 1, link 2, link 3

    Question:
    I read once somewhere that the Diaclone toy took some design liberties, using elements from various Countach Lamborghini. Can anyone elaborate?

    Information about the car:
    http://www.lambocars.com/cou/lp500s.htm
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamborghini_Countach


    Photo of real-life alt mode found, permission to use photo pending:





    Permission for using real-life photo granted, looking for corresponding toy photo:




    Finished entries:

    Tracks, Road Rage, Black Tracks et al.
     
  2. Gen. Magnus

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    I can tell you that the coe frightliner had / has been used as a car carrier. My town is like one massive truck stop (I live in a town right on I70, one of the biggest highways across the US) and have seen them a few times.

    They are not common now (of course, it has been a good many years since the toys creation) but I have seen a few of them (I could probably count the times on one hand and I have lived here for for a few years).

    Also, I do know of at least one countache that was used as a police car but it was not decorated as a police car. It was used by a local town to catch speeders. More correctly, it was used to encourage speeders (to race on another highway) and then ticket them (can you say 'entrapment'... the towns revenue was literally over 50% from speeding tickets. Laws were passed to curb this some.)
     
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    ironhide/ratchet is a nissan vanette, from the high roof and the grill design. at least thats what its called where i live, ive a feeling onebox and vanette is the same model, different name due marketing. no they dont use them for ambulance here.
     
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    Whilst I'm not sure it was ever used for normal day to day police use - to Countac had at least one police incarnation to display at the 1982 Monaco GP.

    I can't find any photos yet - but I'm sure it was white - so nearer Red Alerts colour scheme.

    As a side note the Italian police do have at least one Lamborghini in service as a police car (a blue diabalo I think).

    EDIT - The italian police car I remembered was a Lamborghini Gallardo - blue and white - not dissimilar to powered up RiD Prowl.
     
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    This may be all repeats, haven't read through everything above. Borrowed from Rob Jung's terrific list:

    84
    Bluestreak - Grey Datsun 280ZX with T-bar roof
    Brawn - Green Land Rover Defender 4 x 4
    Bumblebee - Yellow Volkswagen Beetle
    Bumper (or "Bumblejumper") - Yellow Mazda Familia 1500XG
    Cliffjumper - Red Porsche 924 Turbo
    Gears - Red/Blue 4WD off-road truck
    Hound - Green Army Mitsubishi J59 jeep
    Huffer - Orange tractor cab
    Ironhide - Red Nissan Onebox van
    Jazz - White Porsche 935 Turbo
    Mirage - Blue F-1 Ligier JS25 Formula 1 racer
    Optimus Prime - Red Freightliner COE Dual-Axle tractor truck
    Prowl - White Datsun 280ZX police cruiser
    Ratchet - White Toyota Previa (or Nissan Onebox) van/ambulance
    Sideswipe - Red Lamborghini Countach LP500S
    Sunstreaker - Yellow Lamborghini Countach LP500S ("Super Tuning")
    Trailbreaker - Black Toyota 4WD Hilux
    Wheeljack - White Lancia Stratos Turbo racing car
    Windcharger - Red Trans Am

    85
    Beachcomber - Blue dune buggy
    Grapple - Orange crane
    Hoist - Green Toyota 4WD Wrecker tow-truck
    Inferno - Red fire engine
    Powerglide - Red A-10 Thunderbolt II airplane
    Red Alert - White Lamborghini Countach LP500S fire escort
    Seaspray - Blue/White/Yellow hovercraft
    Skids - Blue Honda City Turbo compact
    Smokescreen - Red/Blue Datsun CRX
    Tracks - Blue Corvette Stingray
    Warpath - Red Sheridan tank
     
  6. Nevermore

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    Rob Jung's list is the original one, which is outdated on many accounts. For example, Inferno and Grapple are Hino models. :) 
     
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    Am I missing something? Weren't most of the "clone" type cars Nissan Fairlady Z?
     
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    My dad's co-worker has a anime Bluestreak and a guy here in Chicago has a regular Bluestreak. I also know there's a pic floating around the internet of a real Prowl.
     
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    I'm pretty sure Ultra Magnus's trailer is a complete fabrication. The missile launchers for one. :rolleyes2 

    But seriously, I used to work for a car transport company and there are 2 major concerns with transporters 1.) Carrying the max number of cars possible 2.) staying below regulation height.

    Ultra Magnus wouldn't work (G1 or RID) because he ONLY carries 4 cars and the top deck is way too high. (the reason height is regulated on car carriers? Truck + Bridge = convertable) This is also why cabover designs are rarely used with car carriers, they take away from valuable altitude. Most transporters can hang a car over the tractor (called a 'head car/rack' BTW) if they have a low lying cab.

    I actually had to learn the difference between tractor manufacturers because a Freightliner was low enought to sneek a Subaru Forrester onto the head rack but a Volvo cab was too tall by a matter of inches.
     
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    I'm a little bit confused about the categories. this says G1 autobot cars, and in the other link it mentions doing subgroups. I'm assuming this means right now we're only looking for the year 1 and 2 diaclone molds?
     
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    thats a cool little thing that Swindle was, I never knew that there was something that looked like that.
     
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    Yes. "Autobot Cars" is the official name from the 1984/85 catalogs, so I'm using this one.

    All 13 molds released as part of the Diaclone "Car Robo" line.
     
  14. Nevermore

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    Got pics for all three versions of the Corvette, as 1982 models. Are these okay? Because I could ask for permission right away then. :) 

    Also, Asquian of the Allspark points out that Inferno and Grapple are actually Mitsubishi Fusos, and hotmissile of the Allspark brings the proof.
     
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    i posted some pics in GD about my neighbours black lambo that looks like G2 sideswipe. its even got the same spoiler. his lambo is a 25th anniversary edition i believe, i think there's not many of them around.

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    thread is here
     
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    i posted some pics in GD about my neighbours black lambo that looks like G2 sideswipe. its even got the same spoiler. his lambo is a 25th anniversary edition i believe, i think there's not many of them around.

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    thread is here
     
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    We have been granted permission by Ken Leonard to use the following photos from this site:

    Road Rage - 1982 Corvette Stingray - link 1

    Black Tracks - 1982 Corvette Stingray - link 1

    Anyone who owns either of these toys in a good condition might want to take a photo now. Please make sure that the perspective should be as close to the real-life photo as possible. In other words, try to "imitate" the photo of the real-life car with your toy.
     
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    Who in the hell is roadrage? I don't remember and transformer named that!
     
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    I think he's the repainted tracks
     
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