Discussion in 'Transformers General Discussion' started by Funky Munky, Aug 7, 2011.
If man is to be smarter than animal, than why are all the cassettes smarter than Rumble and Frenzy?
Because they're meant to be thugs, therefore they are stupid.
Because the Decepticon tapes are awesome like that.
Plus, how do you know Frenzy and Rumble aren't the smartest? They've deceptively configured themselves so that nobody knows who the hell is who, so they can't get in trouble because neither one can be blamed for something the other did when you can't tell who is who.
Rumble didn't even really feel like one of Soundwave's cassettes. He was practically just some random little dude the Decepticons kept around but barely ever actually came out of Soundwave's chest from what I can remember.
They are ALIEN ROBOTS, not man or animal.
I think the smartest for a Decep cassette was 8: Ravage and Buzzsaw.
Yeah, the answer is: because they aren't "animals"... any more than standard TF's are "men and women". They are just differently configured Decepticons. Ravage was intelligent and occasionally verbose in the Marvel comics right from the beginning. Ratbat even more so.
Later in Beast Wars, Ravage appears as the Tripredacus Agent, and for once in the extended G1 cartoon continuity, we get to see him portrayed as he actually is supposed to be.... a clever, crafty saboteur.
I always loved Buzzsaw, and wanted to see him get more development. Stupid Laserbeak got to do everything instead.
smarter than rumble and frenzy how?
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Tech Specs weren't always reliable. After all, it's a known fact that the original seekers all had the Tech Specs of one of the OTHER seekers.
Additionally, Bluestreak has been given a Courage rating of "2", even though he's touted around as a weapons guy who simply dislikes war and talks a whole damn lot.
Ravage does once... after Hound or Mirage drops the keys to the cage in part 3 of MtMtE, Ravage frees himself and speaks to Megatron through Soundwave where the rocket base is.
But only as a cassette tape, and in Casey Kasem's voice, as I recall.
The Tech Specs are actually surprisingly reliable. The Seeker Switch for example, goes a long way toward showing just how relevant the stats are, that one can still clearly match the proper stats to the proper Seeker based on how the stats reflect the bio.
And let's also remember that the man who invented the characters is also the guy who wrote the first few years of the Marvel series, so it's pretty obvious that he intended Ravage and Ratbat to be precisely as intelligent as they were depicted in the Specs and the comics.
So yeah... Ratbat (9), Ravage (8), and Buzzsaw(8) really are categorically the smartest Decepticon tapes... and in fact, are among the smartest Decepticons period!
As for Bluestreak and his 2 Courage... the fact that Bluestreak possesses formidable weaponry is irrelevant. The fact that in spite of this, he still freezes up at the prospect of fighting due to flashbacks to the horrors of seeing his city destroyed... well, I think that's a damn GOOD reason to give him a low Courage rating. After all, what is Courage really, if not the will and ability to take action when the moment calls for it? This is something that Bluestreak has great difficulty with, hence 2 Courage.
They are still, in my opinion, the best way to ascertain their abilities.
You recall incorrectly.
G1: MTMTE: Part 3: Act 1‏ - YouTube
time frame 7;22
Sounds more like Frank Welker.
Yeah, if Lazerbeak were chicken, Buzzsaw should have been sent to do the job.
And that voice was deep. I believe it was Ravage speaking simply reporting to Megatron where the base was.
And this is why I'm glad you guys are around, because you understand this stuff much better than I do
For some reason, I remember Ratbat having an intel of 7. Guess I had a misprinted tech-spec.
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