Floppy figures, why no inventive 3P offered a universal fix?

Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by dxp, Apr 15, 2018.

  1. dxp

    dxp Well-Known Member

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    What would it take for a company to devise a system by which the owner of a figure could readily adjust the tightness of the joints to their own desired level of strength (within some bounds), perhaps by adjusting a screw somewhere. Then, put such a mechanism on as many joints as possible so that floppy figures are a relic in the dustbin of history.
     
  2. ZombehDino

    ZombehDino Transformers was a mistake

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    Ehhhhh I dunno. That would definitely drive up prices because of the added parts and engineering. I think floor polish is as universal of a solution that we're gonna get for the foreseeable future.
     
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  3. BIOMEC

    BIOMEC Terrorcon, aka "Ratchetman"

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    Well designed ratchets are the solution to floppiness.

    Or friction rubber pads.
     
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  4. BIOMEC

    BIOMEC Terrorcon, aka "Ratchetman"

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    It's a messy and not elegant solution :( 
     
  5. deaculpa

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    Future finish is my solution. Perfect? No. Universal? Pretty much.
     
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    As long as it can be fixed with floor wax, I am good. HasTak is the one making loose shit nowadays anyways.
     
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    for that part to be made there has to a bigger market than the 3rd party fan club we have now... no money no honey.
     
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  8. bellpeppers

    bellpeppers A Meat Popsicle

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    I take pieces of Kleenex and put them into ball sockets.
     
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    Maybe just show Hasbro that you won't buy their floppy ass KO quality figures.
     
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  10. BIOMEC

    BIOMEC Terrorcon, aka "Ratchetman"

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    Floppiness is just inevitable in friction joints regardless of the manufacturer... That is one of the reasons I prefer ratchets or dedicated friction joints that are more durable versus the more widespread use "plastic rubbing against plastic" traditional friction joints...
     
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  11. dmarsee

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    There are products out there with robust build quality where the user can tinker with tolerances and joints to their heart’s content.

    However, most of these are either model kits that require huge effort on the part of the consumer... or are dramatically higher in price.

    Remember, most toys are intended for
    • shelf-appeal
    • character likeness
    • ease of manufacture, and
    • profitability.
    While I would personally like the feature you’re proposing, it isn’t necessarily something that would increase sales in a major way, but would greatly add to costs.

    So I’m inclined to agree with others on this thread... and bet that it would be unlikely to be widely adopted — unless we could somehow show toy makers that we buy their products *because* of features like this.
     
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  12. ReximusPrimal07

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    For balljoints I usually fill them a little with blue tack because I can’t be bothered waiting
     
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    Its not inevitable that it is floppy AF as soon as you take it out of the package and hand it to your kid.
     
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    Not sure how that would even be possible?
    There's no magical component that can be retrofitted to old figures to miraculously make the joints tight (except of course Future Floor polish which works great)
    As for a "industry standard" tightenable joint design, how on earth would anyone encourage all manufacturers to adopt it? I mean they can't even come up with a standard design for wrist attachment or thigh swivel. Even Takara, within it's own Masterpiece line can't maintain consistent styling, design or components. Almost every official MP figure has a different coloured windscreen, even the faction logo design has changed halfway through the line. And you think that Takara, Hasbro, FansToys, XTB, Maketoys etc to say nothing of Bandai, Playarts etc will all willingly adopt a component standard (no doubt one that would come with a licence fee) that would interfere with their freedom to design?
    I mean, Humanity can't even agree to an electrical standard, or a standard of weights and measures, or whether or not to use the letter "u" in the word colour!!!:eek: :p 
    Short answer - Future is your friend, or nail polish of you can't get ahold of Future
     
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    I really don't know how you could make that work. Figures are all different shapes and sizes, and there are a whole range of different joints.
    Companies just need to get better quality control in place more than anything else.
     
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    It would be adding another middleman that would drive up the price of these already expensive things.
     
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  17. Zawicki

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    Floor polish is like $3 and lasts forever. I also don't know what 3rd party figures you're buying that are floppy enough to require something so elaborate.
     
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  18. xueyue2

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    Planet X... ;) 
     
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  19. TCJJ

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    Do they use the same factory as Hasbro?
     
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  20. xueyue2

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    Seriously, I don't know if Planet X's figure is floopy or not, since I didn't own any of it.
    I joked about it because this thread's starter is dxp, he loves Planet X's stuff. :D 
     
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