Final fates (Prime continuity)

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  1. Primus00

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    I'm wondering many of the characters in the Prime continuity had final fates. But there are 2 or 3 characters in which their whereabouts are unknown. They are Airachnid, Predaking, and Megatron. Anyone have ideas and thoughts on the matter?
     
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    Unfortunately, the creators of RID weren't interested in showing what happened to those three, as well as Ultra Magnus, Smokescreen, Wheeljack, Knock Out, and Shockwave. Predaking, Arcee, and Magnus did appear in the comics connected to RID, but those are of dubious Canon, especially when in those comics, Predaking is shown chewing on Starscream's arm when he is shown no worse for wear in the flashback sequences in his RID appearance.

    Because of this, the only fates we can be certain of are Bumblebee, Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Bulkhead, Soundwave, and the aforementioned Starscream. Aside from them (and Sky Lynx and Darksteel, who only appear in a flashback sequence), the most we get is that Megatron is flying through space, presumably in exile from Cybertron.
     
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    Actually one of the creators recently said on Twitter that Starscream was most likely lying about Darksteel and Sky Lynx and that they are okay.
     
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    That's dumb. We saw them die in the flashback of what actually happened. Starscream fabricated a story of using guile and intelect to kill them, but we saw the actual truth, that he stumbled over some weapons systems that took them out by accident. "Most likely"-- Starscream WAS lying about Darksteel and Sky-Lynx. That was the whole point of that scene. He lied about what happened, just not what happened to them. I figure the creator forgot?
     
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    No, he didn't forget. What you see in the scene is them just getting wounded. And Starscream did something similar in beast wars, then you saw a Flashback that was fake as well. It would also be very bad if it was true, and not fit the show tone at all since no one dies in it. So it makes sense they don't.
     
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    Predaking's fate is known... unfortunantly it's really stupid and never should have happened.

    When Stars cream discovered the Mini-cons he triggered an alarm system and basically just got lucky that he tripped and fell because it caused the automated weapons to kill the Predacons instead of him.

    I think they should of brought back the Predacons as main villains and found some other way to have Starscream in the show without killing off the Predacons.
     
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    So one of the creators recently said they might have not died probably and that it didn't happened like that. Which would make sense cause no one dies in the show.

    And the Predacons aren't villains. They should return as good guys!
     
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    Starscream is a dickhead, so I can buy him lying/not checking if the dragons were truly dead.

    But the continuity is over anyway so... who cares?
     
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    Yes, but he lied about bravely fighting against Skylynx and Darksteel but in the flashback, he was running away from them. Why show their deaths at the hand of Megatron's cannon if he was lying about it?


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    Well, it's not clear if they really died in it other then his word. The animation wasn't either clear, and maybe it shows how he remembers it. It still is probably fake anyway. And also Starscream does the exact same in beast wars where he lies but the flashback you see is different but fake as well. And again, it's the creator who said it.
     
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    They were probably talking about Starscream's dialog when they said it didn't happen that way but that doesn't mean they aren't dead.

    Of course he was lying, that was made painfully obvious by the fact that Starscream's dialog didn't match what was actually being shown in the flash back. I wish he was telling the truth because at least in his version of events the Pedacons died in battle and not stupidly by automated cannons.

    As for not checking, they stopped chasing him and Starscream had a lot of free time to learn about the Mini-cons after that. It's not like they fell off a cliff or something and he needed to locate the bodies to confirm their deaths, they were litterely like ten feet away from him. He was using that lab for some time after wards and would of needed to dispose of the bodies at some point. If they were simply knocked out temporarily that would cause a lot of problems with what was shown.

    Exactly. How does Starscream lie about something that he never even said happened in the first place?

    Beast Was had that flash back showing Starscream sacrificing himself to save Galvatron. But you see here the flash back matched the story he was telling and we know it was a lie because of course we've seen what really happened in G1. Galvatron killed Starscream.

    The flash back only makes sense as part of the lie when it actually depicts the same events Starscream is lying about. If the flash back is showing a totally different chain of events that means we're seeing what actually happened as he's lying about it. Both versions of events can't both be lies unless some how Starscream knows we're watching his flash back and is telling us a different story he think's we'll believe but Starscream isn't Deadpool so that seems unlikely.
     
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    No he was stating they were most likely still alive. And again it doesn't even fit the show, no one dies in it.
     
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    No main characters but there are deaths. And how are they likely still alive when we see them die? There's nothing likely about it. I would love for them to still be alive because I like Predaking and hate how they died but there's just no way. Seriously I would love to wrong on this because Predaking was awesome, those deaths were the stupidest thing I had ever seen, but don't get my hopes up if you can't back it up.
     
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    Seems more like you want it. And really there were none at all not even side characters or unnamed ones. Not getting hopes up. Just saying what there is. And well I think it was adam beechen who said it a while back. So they are alive. No offense. But we don't really see them die. Just get hit, and Predacons are strong. And maybe they had to run off, Starscream wouldn't check if they were alive or not and just assumed. He also thought it of Predaking, who clearly isn't either. So it's unknown at best. But they are in fact alive.
     
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    Rewatched the flashback clip:

    Starscream said he bravely faced them, not fought (change of words but we know he likely ran off screaming)

    Also, as the beam hit both Predacons, it shows that the lights in their optics fade to darkness.


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    Could just be knocking out, or something. Still stands they are most likely alive. The creator wouldn't just say that either. And doesn't fit the show. Cause no one ides.
     
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    If by it you mean proof they're alive then yes, that's literally what I just asked for. If you mean anything else that I never said then no.

    We don't see them run off so no that doesn't happen. Also again, they died like ten feet away from Starscream inside the same flipping room, what is there to check? They very clearly died right in front of him. There's nothing to assume, again it's not like they fell off a cliff or something, they were right in plain sight so there's nothing to assume, nothing to check, they're just dead.

    There's nothing clearly isn't dead about any of this, they clearly are dead. Your facts aren't backed up by anything other than some make believe thing you claim the show's creators said which you still haven't provided a link for after being asked multiple times for a source.

    Again, if they were simply knocked out instead of killed where is your evidence? Could be is meaningless. Likely is meaningless. You claimed a fact that they were still alive, could bes and likelys don't prove facts.

    Also even if no else died and doesn't fit the show as you claim, it's not entirely impossible when this is in the same continuity with Prime where there is a much high death count, especially for Decepticons. The flash back itself actually had Prime's art style which didn't fit the show either by the way.

    Like it or not the fact is they are dead. Even TFWiki lists them as being killed and there's no mention of the creators saying otherwise as you keep claiming.
     
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    There is no fact that they are dead. Tfwiki is not made by the creators. So that is no proof. They are in fact alive. I'll send you a screenshot of it.
     
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    You could of just posted that here instead of PMing me. Anyway that said nothing about the Predacons being alive. All it says is that Starscream's version of events are a lie which everyone already knew in the first place.
     
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    And that they might be alive. It answered on a question if they were alive so stating it like that makes it clear they are.
     
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