FINAL ARGUMENT thread: Who was originally Cyclonus?

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  1. Funky Munky

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    People think the one in front was Cyclonus and the one in back was his armada. Well Cyclonus was Skywarp due to an animation error:

    After Megatron changes to Galvatron, look where Unicron says, "And these shall be your minions."
    It's the right half of the screen. Skywarp ORIGINALLY is in front of Bombshell as they're being set up for their new bodies by Unicron.
    So due to an error in character placement, ORIGINALLY the one in front was Sky.

    If I can't win with THIS argument, it's all fan's preference (not that it wasn't always.)
    But ONE last debate. At least I haven't seen Cyclonus approached from this angle.




    Oh my- front center character was Scourge? During the same body setup, that would mean SHRAPNAEL was the true Scourge!
     
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    Nope Skywarp and Thundercracker ARE Cyclonus and Scourge.
     
  3. Funky Munky

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    I think it was "Camera rotation". Bombshell is in front of Skywarp if you rotated the angle to the right.

    Same with Thundercracker.
     
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    This. Nothing more can be said.
     
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    Except that both Cyclonus and Skywarp were active on Cybertron when the Predacon Megatron took over and both remained online and joined the Wreckers.

    So Cyclonus had to been somebody else.
     
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    Excuse me, I would just like to say one thing.. It doesn't matter who Cyclonus is!
    Thank you for your time.
     
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    If Ya Smellllll.. wait what?

    Seriously what does it really matter who either of them are? if its Skywarp, Thundercracker, Bombshell, Shrapnel, Stampy, Moon, Gobot Crasher or Grimlock's Mom!

    What does it change?
     
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    Spam aside, I don't this will be the final argument on this topic.
     
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    little joke aside, I really want to know, what does it change? they seemingly have no memory of who they were or especially don't even seem to care.
     
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    Scourge does somewhat or it was implied that he does. In the episode where Unicron was to get his eyes back, Scourge tries to bow out and Unicron tells him something like, "You will not. I recreated you and what I create, I can also destroy."
     
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    Judging strictly by what we see on the screen, Bombshell is the one being focused on when Cyclonus manifests. Sources written much later by writers who had nothing to do with the movie have retconned it as Skywarp becuase to them it "makes more sense." But it honestly doesn't matter either way, Cyclonus doesn't display the personality (or abilities) of either of them. He is his own bot once he's done reformatting.
     
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    "FINAL ARGUMENT" my ass
     
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    The silent loyalty.

    At one time, I thought Cyclonus and the Armada were both divided equally of Bombshell and Skywarp: Bombshell's intelligence level with Skywarp's physical ability.
    The Armada does appear again in at least one S3 episode, forgot which one... Armada, two Cyclonuses, whatever way you view it.
     
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    Or you could say that all there parts where put togather to make them all. Even galvatron
    they where all put togather the same time so why couldnt Unicron mix parts?

    who cares what you see because you see skywarp and the insecticons flying around for the rest of the movie.
     
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    I prefer the way Universe Cyclonus' bio explains it; all it says is that Cyclonus was constructed out of "Deactivated Decepticon warior chassises". No direct mention of Skywarp or Bombshell, although the vague nature of the bio could mean either of the two, if not BOTH, were used to make Cyclonus.

    Then, in the BiS comic for the RtS Cyclonus, the character in question goes on a monoluge about how he wants to outdo scourge to gain Galvatron's favor, because in all of his past Lives he never got the respect he thinks he deserved. Note the plural.
     
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    unicron took a whole pile of fucked up, beat up, jacked the hell up decepticons and reforged them into cyclonus, scourge and the sweeps...he used parts of all the decepticons in the forging of these new transformers.

    that is from the BIS bio for cyclonus (made from the remains of fallen decepticons)

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    Or, for that matter, more than just the 2 of them :) 
     
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    Looks like Bombshell to me. Well, Thundercracker and Skywarp were both seen at Starscream's coronation, but then again, Shockwave was there, too. So just an animation error.
     

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