Freaking nasty. WARNING: I'm serious, don't look at this if you have a weak stomache. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=PS2SMUV0BPC55QFIQMGCFGGAVCBQUIV0?xml=/news/2007/12/03/wface103.xml
I don't think it's possible to talk about this subject at all without bringing up his religion. Cursed forum rules...
You can't call the guy an idiot for letting it get like that without his religion being involved. You can't say that the guy has some word I can't think of that refers to some positive trait that someone might be able to come up with without his religion being involved. Quite the useless thread.
The guy was brainwahsed by his mother, by the sounds of it. At least he is finally going to get some help for this.
Wasn't there some case where some boy could've been saved by blood transfusion but he refused because of his religious beliefs and died? Or was it that the doctors did it anyway and the parents sued?
I think the local government forced the transfusion to occur due to public pressure. Which, quite frankly, was the right decision. If a religions doctrine is harmful to your health, you shouldn't be involved in said religion.
Yeah, especially in this day and age. Those kinda things may have been created for a good reason in the past, when the hygiene side of things wasn't so good...like the transfusion thing, back then they couldn't really determine if the blood was "clean" or not...
I used to be a Jehovah's Witness. Not anymore, things like this confirm my decision. At least he'll have a chance at returning to normal life now, but being so bullheaded is what got him where he is today. Hopefully this thread stays open but if it's locked oh well.
There isn't much to say. It's encouraging he agreed to have that treated. Still it was stupid not to have it treated in time, but Jehova's Witnesses are such people.
Ugh, Thats just gross and not something I particularly wish to see...still its like a car accident you just can't help but look.
Is it that he's against transfusions from others or transfusions period? Wouldn't it be possible to store up his own blood to prep for the surgry?
I'm pretty sure it's "transfusions period", due to unsanitary conditions a long time ago(which is why some religions have little "clauses" like that, involving medical treatments and food, they made sense hundreds of years ago).
Transfusions, period. The problem was that in order to remove the deformity, you would have massive blood loss, and he was against transfusions due to his religion (though, by the article, as i said previously, he sounds like he was thoroughly brainwashed by his mother). This new procedure coagulates the bloood already built up in the tumours, thus negating the blood loss. To me, the real blame for this getting so horrible for him lies with his mothers strict adherence to her religious doctrine. When you allow an ideology, of any kind religious or otherwise, to harm your family, you've become a cultist, plain and simple. Your belief system should never be more important to you than the ones who love you, and rely on you for care.
Ya gotta stop with the "his mother brainwashed him with the religious doctorine, she was a cultist" stuff, it's against the rules. It's hard enough to discuss it as it is considering the religious aspect involved, don't kill what would otherwise probably be a borderline yet allowable discussion.
I think both of those have happened... gah, stupid forum rules, can't express my distaste properly as I can't comment on religion...
Yeah, would be nice to openly discuss religion and politics, but it would probably end up nasty. I have no problems with the rules as, unfortunately, we can't all be adults and discuss things of that nature properly. Anyway, hope the guy gets better and quits being so stubborn. For his own good. Absinthe for everyone
