Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by Godzilla Ranger, Jan 5, 2018.
If Cybertron were depicted more as a planet and less of a city-state like Transformers always does you could easily say all these variations merely depicted different regions.
I do like the idea that the honeycomb pattern is the inner structure worn away.
The look of Cybertron in Bumblebee pretty much confirms this is a visual reboot.
Why can't I vote for bumblebee as my favorite design? I hope we get to see some talking scenes on the planet, or some stuff before the war started.
I like the honeycomb superstructures from DoTM.
The last one looks most similar to what Cybertron used to be. Similar to the original.
Just added Bumblebee as an option
Bumblebee without contest. the previous planets used were not Cybertron. i don't even know what planet those are. the 2007 movie's stills featured a purplish-colored organic-like planet with huge spikes on it, but adorned by shape-shifting structures. DoTM is a honeycomb planet without any atmosphere whatsoever so intelligent life could not possibly rise out of it. i guess it's because the bay transformers look like insects *shrugs* the one from TLK could not possibly be Cybertron because of the organic grass on it. RoTF didn't have Cybertron, the Cons had a hideout on one of the moons of Saturn?
War for Cybertron Cybertron *IS* Cybertron. Fall of Cybertron Cybertron *IS* Cybertron. Bumblebee Cybertron *IS* Cybertron.
I know the other films might be disregarded at this point but what if the structure of Cybertron over the course is representative of the state it is in.
Bumblebee (Cybertron in its full glory)> 2007 movie (Cybertron is deteriorating from the effects of war) > DOTM (Cybertron is a dead husk of a world with its exoskeleton left)> TLK (Cybertron is a dead husk now with organic grass taking over)
that's an interesting take i could go for and would be consistent.
i guess down the line, i'm hoping one of the twists is that Cybertron was Earth once. i like that head canon.
What is funny is you can actually look at the version of Cybertron from Bumblebee and it does look like over time it could eventually wear down to it's honeycomb structure presented in TLK and DOTM. Of course this is probably just accidental at this point, considering bumblebee doesn't know WTF type of movie it wants to be (prequel/reboot) besides a solid little film.
so far i'm going with the official paramount announcement that this is a prequel, but who knows what they'll do next
I actually happen to agree with those who don't fully like any version of Cybertron, cartoon or Movieverse.
The Cybertron in the cartoons and Bumblebee film is too much like a human city in appearance.
The honeycomb pattern in DotM, as well as its mixture with layers of rock and organic life in TLK, is more alien, but I like the idea of its surface being more variable. I'd like alien-looking outposts and military and industrial centers as well alien wildernesses, perhaps with weird, unearthly flora and fauna with them.
The planet in RotF is not Cybertron by any stretch, but that brings me to my next point...
...Enough Cybertron for now. The universe is bigger than Earth and Cybertron.
You know what was awesome, perhaps not in its narrative concept, but as an idea? That Mission to Cybertron comic where Optimus Prime encounters a Gyronian Sentry on Paradon while looking for the Creators. There were vast, arid plains and Energon resources located in a jungle-like oasis. The Gyronian Sentry transformed into an alien chariot IIRC, and he had these alien cat-like creatures under his command that pulled him in his alt mode.
Or things like the interior of Lockdown's ship in AoE. It had alien vines, all sorts of tentacled creatures, organic aliens, cyborg wolves, alien prison cells, and robots. It felt like a truly alien environment where even some of the Autobots weren't comfortable in. Places like Paradon in Mission to Cybertron or the Knightship...THOSE are things I'd much rather see more of rather than more depictions of Cybertron, animated or live action.
Such locations wouldn't need as much CGI either. Lockdown's ship had CGI, but a lot of it was practical walls, floors, cages, and weapons. And you can have remote mountains, volcanic landscapes, oceans and ocean floors, hot springs, coasts, jungles, swamps, deserts, and ruins standing in for alien worlds.
i really wish they'd take the "colony planets" thing from cybertron and idw and incorporate it. i don't like it beings neutrals tho, i'd have velocitron, eukaris/jungle planet, nebulon all be involved in the war. have them be planets that either "lost" the war because the transformers' war either scared the locals off or killed them off. have eukaris populated by guys with earth beast modes by explaining the planet has a makeup not dissimilar to earth and they took earthen beast modes to adapt. or something.
hell, ideally, my tf universe would have tons of planets, each one with its own stories to tell, each one's primary players the characters from other fictions. the victory cast on their own planet, scorponok and fort max duking it out with the ____masters on nebulon in a way eerily similar to the path humanity's going down, eukaris can have the beast wars guys... dunno how you'd explain all the optimussy-looking guys being in command everywhere, but you could probably change them up a little.
All the movies with the exception of bumblebee made cybertron look like some barren wasteland.
Guess we now know how megatron got to Cybertron
The whole misstep thing would be the worst day of my life tbh
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