energon pain count

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  1. megatronkicksas

    megatronkicksas Well-Known Member

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    What's funny about it? What is a Pain Count supposed to be? Is it just how many times someone says "Uh"?
     
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    Pain count is how many extra things the Dub adds Superlink didn't have. Unless it's an animation desing.
     
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    You lost me right there.....
     
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    The Dub 'Energon' adds in extra dialogue to fill in the awkward silences heard in 'Superlink'.

    Get it?
     
  6. Chris McFeely

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    Uh?
     
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    You can't be serious.
     
  8. Chris McFeely

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    Get in the ship!
     
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    Aw man.
     
  10. Chris McFeely

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    The Decepticons' weak point is on planet Earth!
     
  11. MushroomPrime

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    But Kicker, we need Energon.
     
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    Kicker kicker our planets kicker!
     
  13. Bgrngod

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    So they added extra voice-overs to fill in audio "dead air"? Interesting. Why call it a Pain Count though? Are they exceptionally obnoxious or something? I've never seen the show.
     
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    They're a collection of meaningless grunts and a group of brain-dead, heavily repeated stock phrases. And more often than not, it's not even dead air that they're filling - they're taking the place of actual dialogue that meant something in the original version.
     
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    Ya that buged me so bad I could not finish Energon, and went to Superlink.
     
  16. Chris McFeely

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    Which is almost as bad - it just had dialogue that makes sense in amongst the dismissive character handling and dragged-out non-plot.
     
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    Interesing Wiki page. I wonder if the Energon Box set to be released in the US will have differences from the Energon Broadcast?
     
  18. megatronkicksas

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    We can only freakin hope. I'll still get it.
     
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    On top of being a very bad dub filled with numerous occurances of redundant and even stupifyingly nonsensical dialogue for no good reason other then being rushed. While Superlink can hardly be called plot rich, Energon stripped the plot down even further, replacing most of the sparse meaningful dialogue there was, removing entire subplots alltogether that fleshed out what characterization Superlink did provide to a almost insulting degree, even cutting out a single episode, one with arguably the most character development in the entire series, and then altering the dubs of the remaining episodes to cut out all references to all the plot development that had occured.
     
  20. Sol Fury

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    In all fairness, the show was rushed. Apparently the dubbing company only got half-done scripts and footage to work with, and the scripts were apparently not very well translated. That was the price of a near-simultaneous showing in the US and Japan.

    Look at the shows either side. Armada's writing was better all round, other than name errors the actual story was easier to follow. Cybertron was pretty well done, even replicating the accents thing (in the Japanese one, the characters had regional accents which was carried over to the show). Both series had more lead time on them than Energon. More time for proper checks.

    Also don't forget, Energon was buried in dead time slots for nearly all of its run, that is not exactly an incentive to quality, either.
     

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