Due to "Motormaster", we cannot have proper size of Combiners like those in Cartoon?

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  1. Dogbomber

    Dogbomber Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys, I have this question in my mind for years. I wonder other than the cost issue, would Motormaster be the main reason that make Hasbro/Takara decided to standardise/downsize the scale of all G1 combiner?

    As you can see that in the cartoon, motormaster truck is as large as Prime but when it was transformed into robot, the truck is indeed the feet of Motormaster. I cannot imagine if they make motormaster as large as G1 Prime, and after the transformation, it is defintely taller than Prime even before combining..

    No offence to other Menasor fans. Sometimes I wonder if in the absense of Menasor, we might still have a chance to have a G1 combiner with scale proportional to other G1 toys.
     
  2. Grimlock_13

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    Scale means nothing to the designers.
     
  3. mx-01 archon

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    Scale has never meant a damned thing in Transformers, so Motormaster's existence doesn't effect it at all. Considering the large number of Combiners that came out after Menasor, I'm not sure how you came to this conclusion in the first place.

    Besides, Bruticus is a bigger offender to scale than Motormaster/Menasor ever could be.

    And they never downscaled a thing for G1, either. The combiners were all pre-existing designs intended for a Diaclone sub-line, that got fully absorbed into Transformers.
     
  4. Wollstone

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    We've had a lot of combiners since Motormaster...
     
  5. sphererer

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    I reckon this entire scale thing just started off way back when the cartoonists started drawing the robots to similar proportions in spite of actual difference between the various toys.

    Agreed with mx-01 that the toys cannot be altered at all since it was already meant for a Diaclone sub-line so guess the only thing that could be changed would have been the cartoons but..

    might be a lil bit dumb to see Motormaster and co. being smaller size than Prime and Megs in the cartoon as per their toy appearance.

    I know the scale thing don't make sense at all but if Transformers back then really did, we probably won't be here collecting the toys and talking about them way past our childhood :wink: 
     
  6. Kup-is-Dion

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    Nah, Superion was the biggest scale bar none. He was made up of jets, hell, Silverbolt was a freaking Concord yet he was the same size as Defensor and Menasor.
     
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    Fixed. :) 
     
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    HAHAHa...... scale...
     
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    This sums it up pretty well.
     
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    if you want scale your in the wrong hobbie lol
     
  11. QmTablit

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    You're forgetting that while they were all designed by Takara, the Scramble City combiners were designed to be part of a sub-line that worked with Metroplex and didn't have a whole lot to do with the rest of the Diaclone line (the Autobot cars and such).
     
  12. Dogbomber

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    haha, thanks for all the input. I just had this stupid thought about it and even threw this question to the TF fans I met in University and they were speechless!

    TFW2005 is hidden with a lot of smart ppl.
     
  13. unicronsupreme

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    I always thought Defensor was pretty bad with the motorcycle being the same size as a helicopter.
     
  14. Sol Fury

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    Scale never bothered me. I was always in it for the cool toys.
     
  15. Automorpher

    Automorpher Autobot Slut!

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    Scale was barely breathing the day they made BB a Deluxe.

    Then it died officially when Powerglide became an Ultra! :drunk 

    (At least to me...)
     
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    Well...... one is a car and the other is a plane. I think they actually go those two kinda right. :D 
     
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    It died offically when characters were out of scale with themselves. (read: most of the triple changers)

    In hindsight, BB as a deluxe is far more in scale than the worst offenders.

    And yeah, Powerglide as an ultra makes sense.
     
  18. mx-01 archon

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    Masterpiece Optimus Prime accomplished that feat with only one mode.
     
  19. Automorpher

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    No, it doesn't.

    He was a Minibot in G1, remember? :popcorn 
     
  20. mx-01 archon

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    He was a minibot because he was designed as a transforming toy. As in, the original Japanese toy that became Powerglide was a robot that transformed into a toy plane.

    I don't think that's an aspect that Powerglide would particularly appreciate transferring over to his canon self. He's an A10. A10's are huge freakin' planes. Powerglide as an Ultra makes sense. Powerglide as a "Minibot" is entirely arbitrary.
     

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