Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Sol Fury, Feb 14, 2008.
he said he wrote the outline, basically what he wanted the script to be like
Unfortunately it seems that news people are rolling with the RENEGADE BAY SAYS FUCK YOU TO WRITERS angle to stir controversy.
Or he was saying things intentionally false to rile up the haters in the TF community as he said he would do to give out false information.
I just hope this doesn't complicate things or have them trying to remove him as director due to politics in hollywood. The devil you now is better than the devil you don't know. Look at Batman 3/4 vs 1/2...
I know, eh? It's like nobody actually pays attention to the details anymore. Now watch people fly off the handle yet again, anyway...
Eh, who knows. Either one could be false information.
It seems likely that no Dreamworks is pointing out that no "official work" relating to the script was done during the strike period, because otherwise that would be a problem as far as the union is concerned.
While I know sometimes union rules can get confusing I doubt that what Bay does qualifies as "official studio work" or something like that.
It's not like Bay needs to do a ton in order to get a movie outline. I imagine all his proposels go something like this:
Bay: We open on a wide shot of X. The sun rises behind it, revealing Y.
Bay: Then BANG!! BOOOOOOOOM! Stuff 'splodes!
Bay: FX! FX! More FX! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
Bay: Hero & Eye Candy make out
Bay: Fade to Black
Studio Exec: How much do you want?
Bay: 52 Billion Dollars
Studio Exec: Done!
i think ill just wait till june 29 2009 to see which news was true or false lol
eh, who cares! Its coming! It will be worth the wait!
Writing entails the creative forces involved with the scripting process of a project - an outline certainly falls under that. Bay already said he wasn't going to let the strike set him back, why then should fans try to qualify what he did? This debate is really as simple as either you care he didn't back the strike or not - trying to imply an outline isn't a full script and therefore doesn't count as writing though is just silly semantics.
Where the heck does it end?
If a writer scratched some ideas about Lost down on a post-it note and someone found out would he be kicked out for "writing a script?"
To me writing a script involves actually writing a script that is going to be used, getting paid for it, a check being exchanged, maybe a contract, copyrights, editing, etc. The whole process.
You are right that it is a question of semantics, but it is definitely fair to make the distinction between writing a script in the usual scriptwriting process/business, and just writing ideas, planning. Especially from the DIRECTOR of all people. The writers are arrogant if they think that the entire creative process needs to stop dead and Michael Bay needs to just play golf for 3 months without thinking about his next project
Lets remember that he said he would put things out there to keep people on their toes in order to avoid a 'leaked script' situation like what happened during filming of the original. For all we know, we should take whatever HE says as BS, until fellow people confirm it. For example, He said more bots and an producer said more bots, therefore its probably true; Then he says there is an outline and no one else backs him, therefore he's lying. Deedeedee
Bay thinks he wrote the movie, but Bay also lives in his own little make believe world built by ego where he is king of all things cool.
Bay wrote a sixty-page scriptment for the writers to expand upon, and we know ILM is working on designs and animatics. I don't even know why a movie needs an office, of all things...
It ended Tuesday night, when the WGA approved the deal. After that, Bay can make up all the outlines he wants and not have to worry about any silly workers actions getting in his way.
Again, it comes down to whether you care if he was supportive of the action or not, really.
Obviously he's not going to get into any trouble over this or anything, so it's all a moot conversation. Not like the guy is ever going to win any Best Screenplay awards anyways, yeah?
I don't think Dreamworks saying that they "have no production office set up for the "Transformers" sequel," is the same as them saying there has been no progress.
Well, as far as I know Damon and Carlton did absolutely ZERO writing work on Lost during the strike, including post-it notes. Any plotting for future episodes would have occurred pre-strike.
True, but they were the ones protesting. I'm sure they didn't even want to think about the show that was screwing them over.
Well either way, I've always seen Bay as an arrogant prick. I thing that's all he'll ever be. It's just a shame that Hollywood keeps finding him work.
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