I am not going to start one of those threads, I am merely going to state my opinion on the matter and leave it up for honest discussion. Dark of the Moon has been shelfwarming for ages, many stores still seem to be carrying loads of these figures, most notably the sea of yellow that we are constantly complaining about. Recently, with the large lull in Prime merchandise coming out in Canada and being mostly caught up with other toylines, I find myself finally venturing out to pick up as many DotM figures as humanly possible. Sadly, by the time I had the funds a lot of 8$ deluxes vanished from the shelves at Wal-Mart, so I find myself hoping for another clearance sale in August at the soon-to-be Targets (Formerly-and-yet- still Zellers, Piss Poor Wasteland of Retail Hell.) so that they can clear out all of those deluxes and I can get a crack at them at reduced price. I've been watching older reviews on Youtube, checking out written reviews on forums and sites and i have managed to pick up three figures. Roadbuster, Skids and Starscream. I feel, in my opinion, that a lot of the fans of Transformers really ignored, and flat out black listed a bunch of these toys simply to follow the trend set by most of the big name personalities on the internet. While the toys were admittedly riddled with QC issues that defied understanding, and full of lack luster paint applications, I am of the mind that these figures are still fun and impressively engineered for what they are. In the beginning of the Trilogy of films, Hasbro was taking designs that were, for the most part impractical as far as three dimensional toys went, and making some really limited, yet still impressively detailed toys. Toy engineering progressed and Revenge of the Fallen saw a lot of kibble-formers, impressive feats of engineering and even some figures that are lauded as the best of the best. With Dark of the Moon, admittedly we were all getting tired of the same basic engineering quirks and characters being re-re-released in different forms, repainted re-packs and just plain uninspired drivel. And yet, the third toyline really seems to have taken all Hasbro learned from Movie 1 and RotF and combined them both into extremely detailed, yet simple and fun transformations that are considered hit or miss or, to quote Internet Personality Ben Yee quoting a fan comic from the UT days 'Why My shoulders hurt?' And yet, even the worst of the DotM toys have something to offer. Such as Autobot Skids, or just Skids if you prefer. Out of all the deluxes I currently own he, and his brother, seem to be some of the black sheep of the family. And yet, I'm still finding a load of fun things to do with this short stocky bot. Paint apps, paint apps are the absolute worst when it comes to DotM, it seems we're all looking at some decisions made by Hasbro during that time and questioning their ever loving sanity. I don't really have any of the figures where this really is detracting of the figures, least wise I don't think I do, does Starscream count? Let's not forget the stress marks on plastic caused by the manufacturing issues, or what-have-you, straight out of the packaging. (Should I be worried that Skids south paw elbow bal joint socket is really getting stressed out? Or that Starscream's lower hip pins area has stress marks around the pivot areas?) I think a lot of these problems were due to the rush job that Hasbro did to get the product out there in time for the release, if I understand it right the DotM film release date wasn't really finalized before they started getting the prototypes ready and so the figures were kind of rushed with some of the obvious things, like paint app issues and QC problems not fully dealt with. Of course I could have misheard about this. Anyway, I'm really going on and on and just trying to get my thoughts centered, and not doing a full on job of it at this point. I feel that the DotM toyline was looked down upon by fans due to some of the things I've discussed in this thread, perhaps to the detriment of the fans, as the toys are really quite a marvel of engineering. We may not have gotten everything we wanted or hoped for out of this toyline, due to questionable business decisions on Hasbro's part, I mean a lot of us are still hurting over the Soundwave/Que/Leadfoot thing, and I certainly don't want to start that damn mess over again so many months after we got quieted down. However, I think that the toyline as a whole accomplished really what it set out to do, and who knows, if Hasbro had been a bit more prepared and on the ball for the release date then perhaps the figures wouldn't have languished in purgatory so long as to destroy the distribution of some hot ticket items I'm still hoping to luck out and find during my search to complete DotM. In the end run, I really feel that this toyline wasn't altogether that bad. Cyberverse alone prooved that the fans didn't hate all of what Hasbro was doing. And while some of the Mech Tech gimmicks are frustratingly stupid looking when put on the figures, they aren't all bad. Opinions? Agree, Disagree? Feel free to discuss, but do try to keep the whining and flamebaiting and other unpleasantness for the past. We've all surely gotten it out of our systems by now. Let's discuss the merits of Dark of the Moon the Toyline without falling back on old habits, please and thank you.