Does the Fallen become Jetfire?

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  1. Squall42080

    Squall42080 Autobot RSX Type-S

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    This may have been discussed before...but if it has I couldn't find it.

    With the recent look at the toy for the Fallen, I'm beginning to wonder if the Fallen will ultimately become Jetfire?

    We have a mostly black robot "Decepticon" that turns into an alien ship. We also have a mostly black robot "Autobot that historically started out as a Decepticon" that turned into large Earth jet.

    When comparing the toys, the Legends Jetfire toy has very similar feet to the recent Voyager Fallen toy...as well as a faces that look similar...

    I am really beginning to think that Megatron does return, rallies the Decepticons, and somehow uses the Fallen to "hurt" the Autobots. But in a tun of events, the Fallen finds out he is being used, and becomes Jetfire, combines with Prime to take down Devastator and the Decepticons. That wouldn't make the Fallen/Jetfire necessarily a good guy, but someone that ended up doing the right thing.

    What does everyone think?
     
  2. stuckeypcs

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    I had the same thought after seeing the two toys. The only evidence I could use is comparing the heads of both the fallen toy and the jetfire toy. Jetfire doesn't have a full head dress like the Fallen does but he does have those "finned" louvers on either side of his head like the egyption headdress.

    Just a thought to add to yours.
     
  3. Ravenxl7

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    I think it's definitely possible, though at the same time it's still too hard to tell atm. I think it's more likely that they are related somehow, that would explain how they have some similarities in bot-mode. Though the differences in the head and upper torso are big enough, imo, to make them two separate characters. We'll just have to wait and see what happens. On a side note, I'm kinda surprised how tall the Fallen figure is supposed to be. Most figures that big usually have a good amount of gimmicks built into them.
     
  4. Digilaut

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    I've been wondering about that as well, but I doubt this is the case. The Fallen toy does have similarities to the Legends Jetfire we've seen, but I think it would be too far-fetched to be true..
     
  5. Jeremy.B

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    Personally, after seeing both toys, I would have to agree. Until the TFW insider, Orci, or the movie proves differently, that is my opinion as well.
     
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    I personally think they are two different characters. They find jetfire at the Smithsonian. The Fallen is buried under a pyramid. (supposedly)
     
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    Unless "The Fallen" is also a faction....with THE Fallen as the leader and Jetfire is on the Fallen side before switching to the Autobots...
     
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    Jetfire is not the Fallen.
     
  9. Squall42080

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    Uh...fact or opinion?
     
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    Someone with the pics sholud post jetfire and fallen toys next to one another!

    There are a lot of similarities between them but i dont think they are the same bot! Im assuming somehow there realted...considering it is rumored that they both have been on earth for a long period of time!
     
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    Doesn't matter.

    Jetfire is not the Fallen.


    The Fallen is The Fallen.
     
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    I dont think he is, and I hope hes not. I just dont think it would work very well, especially because in defiance #1 the fallen is sort of hinted to be the one that caused the split between Autobots and Decepticons. So, if that were the case, why would he go against the faction that he created?
     
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    He might be but the plot becomes decidedly more retarded if thats the case or if Jetfire is "the brother" of the Fallen or something retarded like that. I can just imagine the brothers Megatron and Optimus taking on the brothers Fallen and Jetfire.
     
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    It really looks like he does, that would be pretty awesome.
     
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    Is Joan Rivers the Fallen?

    (Sorry, just makes about as much sense as this topic.....) ;) 
     
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    Look at the name.

    The Fallen.

    There's inherent evil in it, he's supremely evil and most likely used the Egyptians to further his plans.

    Jetfire is just a pawn, like the rest of them. My guess is they're gonna go a bit G1 with Jetfire in terms of personality and back story.

    Why would The Fallen become Jetfire (who just so happens to switch factions) and aid Optimus?

    No, just...no. I mean who would be The Fallen's enemy? Who would be bad enough that he'd require combining with Prime to save his ass? No one.

    I mean he could possess Jetfire, combine with Prime and ultimately possess him, but I don't see that happening. (The whole thing's a jumble as is.)

    No. The Fallen and Jetfire are two totally different beings. Sorry, common sense goes a long way when pondering such things.
     
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    Yes because the Contructicons unearthing him in Egypt definitely equals meeting him at the Smithsonian.
     
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    They are two separate characters.
     
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