Does size matter?

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  1. gfan1984

    gfan1984 Well-Known Member

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    This is a question I have been looking at in both transformers movies. Size can give a transformer a height and fear advantage...especially for a human. However does that really count? For instance look at Demolisher...his size is impressive, and according to the prequel comics he has slaughter many autobots. However when faced with overwhelming odds like in the beginning of ROTF does a tactical retreat. I felt that his size and sheer power alone, he would have crushed the human opposition, but instead he flees. Next you have Optimus Prime, come in and takes him down single handed. So in your opinion in the TF movies, does size matter?
     
  2. Digilaut

    Digilaut My name is Drift.

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    Next to size there's also skill. Optimus is just way better than Demolishor. If you were to pit Demolishor against a less skilled Autobot, he'd trample all over him.
     
  3. ryan.j

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    blackarchnia assures me it does.
     
  4. TFfan08

    TFfan08 Vigilante

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    This^
    Just skill!
     
  5. Torque

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    Ironhide helped take him down too-he shot out his wheel.
     
  6. Ash from Carolina

    Ash from Carolina Junior Smeghead

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    Size is kind of a tricky thing in the films.

    On one hand size doesn't seem to matter because with size comes weight and with weight comes little things like inertia, yet we see some rather large robots jumping and flipping about like ninjas while we see things like Devastator where they remember big heavy things move differently than small light things.

    More to the original question though I think it has to do more with if you are an Autobot or Decepticon and if it's the movie or say a comic book tied to the movie. Materials outside of the movie itself tend to show the Decepticons as big metal bad ass robots not to be taken lightly. The movies, eh they seem more like big metal canon fodder there to get killed rather than to seem like a real menace.
     
  7. DecepticonsRule

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    Exactly.
    If you had a Demolishor-sized robot with the same amount of skills as Optimus Prime, you're in trouble. But since Demolishor is just a warrior, and Optimus Prime is the leader of the Autobots...

    You could have a tiny robot with an incredible amount of skill and dexterity take down a giant robot that is little more than an ogre.
     
  8. Beachbreak

    Beachbreak Autobot

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    A small insecticon was easily killed by Sam. Ravage was easily killed by BB. Jazz was easily killed by Megatron. The difference in size seemed a major factor.

    Next to size, an Antobot or a Decepticon. It is unlikely that an Antobot is defeated by a smaller Decepticon. Hm…, this may be because the skill of the Antobots is generally higher than that of the Decepticons. :rolleyes: 
     
  9. Attacker_Prime

    Attacker_Prime Optimus Prime forever

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    Size gives strength, but also gives weight. Skill is what makes the difference between winning and losing a battle.

    Look at Devastator, for example. He was so heavy due to his size, he had to walk on all fours in order to keep himself stable. Gravity is what killed him, not the railgun. The railgun just made him unbalanced, and he fell to his doom.

    As for Demolisher, he was a strong warrior indeed, but Optimus and Ironhide are much more skilled, and that is how they won the battle.

    However, when a transformer is huge and has skills, that's another story. For example, Megatron killed Jazz easily. Because of his skill, strength, and of course, size.

    So yes, size does matter.
     
  10. jostru

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    What the f*ck is an Antobot?

    And on Megatron killing Jazz: Megatron is like twice the size Jazz is and Megatron is like 5 times as strong and probably has more skills as well. This resulted in Jazz getting torn in 2 pieces.
     
  11. NothingHead

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    I think it does. Every single small 'bot dies in these movies. Jazz seemed plenty skilled, he just died because he was small enough for a larger robot to get the leverage to pull him apart, and Arcee was pretty ineffectual just because the only weaponry she could carry was a bunch of little pea-shooters. And don't forget how Ravage, Alice, and Frenzy went out...
     
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    And what about Devastator, Demolishor, Megatron (in movie 1), Blackout, Grindor and Brawl? They're all pretty big.
     
  13. Ephland

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    Four words:

    Shadow of the Colossus.

    Size may mean strength and power, but it can be a weakness against smaller and quicker opponents.
     
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    The way size matters is sorta complex. Not only do you have to take into account the difference in size and skill of two given Transformers, but you have to take into account the individual sizes themselves.

    Optimus was a lot smaller than Demolisher, but he was a pretty big robot in his own rights. Jazz, the Bike sisters, and Frenzy however are small in general. Sure, Ravage to Bumblebee was as big as Prime to Demolisher, but he didn't stand as mush as a chance regardless of his skill.

    The Twins and Devastator, however, was an exception because of the sheer difference of skill. Sure, they were small compared to most bots, but Devastator was TOO BIG to be efficient and it's only means of offense was swinging it's limbs and sucking things up.
     
  15. Sioce

    Sioce Radicon in training

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    It's girth that really....oh wait.
     
  16. Poho

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    i love that you said a "tactical retreat".
     
  17. Paxtin

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    This.
     
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    Mudflap single-handedly fought Devastator.
     
  19. Kraken2009

    Kraken2009 Megatron's Right Hand

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    Skill is equally, if not more, important.

    Optimus vs Grindor anyone?
     
  20. jostru

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    Well, you're forgetting Megatron and Starscream in there. Both Megatron and Starscream are bigger (not by much, but they still are) then Optimus as well. So Optimus was totally owning 3 bigger robots at the same time at a certain point. I think this proves that skill is pretty much the most important.
     

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