does arcee mass-shift?

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  1. LordShockwave

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    in many episodes where arcee transformers right next to jack she turns from a small motorcycle into like a 2x as big robot. i mean her head seems like half the size of her bike mode. anyone else see this? She looks way too big to turn into that small motorcycle.
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  2. kaijuguy19

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    Yes she does mass shift but it's a good way of using it unlike with G1 MEgatron with his gun alt mode.
     
  3. Ravenxl7

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    Yes she does, but so does most of the other bots. Even Bulkhead mass-shifts.
     
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    Does Grimlock turn into a T. rex? Sarcasm aside, it's most obvious during Orion Pax, Part 2, when she drives over Knockout's shoulder. Still, like kaijuguy19 said, she's nowhere near as bad an offender as G1 Megatron.
     
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    Like you would not believe.

    However she doesn't size-change. I.e, her robot mdoe is proportional to the bike mode. Take for example the wheel kibble on her back and legs doesn't change size between modes. Not like G1 Soundwave for example who, if he transformed without changing his size, would still be a giant micro cassette player. With Arcee we're just expected to believe all that robot really does fit into that bike.

    Well, technically no. He turns into a mechanical outdated T-rex imagining or T-rex-like mechanoid depending on the series. /troll
     
  6. walnuts

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    Mass Displacement. I believe this was explored in the first generation Marvel comics, when explaining how Megatron goes from a giant robot to a handgun.
     
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    All of the robots mass shift. Arcee is just the most obvious.
     
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    Actually if you watch when she transforms in slow motion, it looks more like ALOT of folding up as opposed to actual mass displacement. Which is weird.
     
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    i've seen bumblebee's heel wheel become as tall as june in one shall rise part 1
     
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    One problem. In darkness rising she transforms right next to Jack and you can clearly see her increase in size by 50%. And not like Bulkheads torso that forms into a ball of car panels that you could assume is held up by a lattice of seats. But just bang she's her robot purportions.
     
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    Her leg detaches, transforms into a bike, and the rest of her disappears like Optimus' trailer.
     
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    Yes.

    Althought it didn't bother me until people on the threads kept pointing it out lol.
     
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    When I saw the thead title I thought of this.

    "Can switching to Geico really save you 20% on car insurance? Does Arcee Mass Shift?"
     
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    ... the magic of television?
     
  17. Idon

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    I cringe every time I hear "mass-shift" in relation to Transformers because I just know it's going to be used wrong.
    Mass shift implies a change in mass, meaning they would weight less in one form and there is no mention or evidence of that here.
    Them changing sizes means they're size, not mass, shifting.
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Actually, mass is the amount of space something takes up. Arcee has more mass in robot mode than in bike mode.
     

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