does anything seperate transmetal 2 beast warriors from cyborg beast warriors?

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  1. GENOZAUR

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    is there really any kind of serious differance between a transmetal 2 beast warrior and a beast wars 2cyborg beast warrior?
     
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    In fiction, I'll have to leave it to someone who has watched BW2.

    In toy form, the Cyborgs are much more upmarket in terms of parts and accessories. Max B and Thrustor in particular have some real upgrades over their original molds. The general aesthetic is fairly similar though.
     
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    In a nutshell, it is just a revert and two different fictions.

    With the Beastwars2, and Beastwars Neo, you have to understand that it is a retcon, and that the only thing that lie dormant, is titles.

    It's sort of like the transition from G1, to say... Animated. Two diffrent shows, however it keeps the same thing in common that the other series do. Yes, BW2/Neo has Optimus Primal at a point, for the... Movie? Thing? Whatever. Point being, when the foreign country takes over, everything you have ever been told ever is thrown out the door, minus Good v. Evil.

    So, in short. Good V. Evil, Other countries equals diffrent fiction, and... Kickback needs to shave. Pretty much all you need to know.
     
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    TM2 Beast Wars
    - Figures - All new molds. First figures to have 'spark crystals', IIRC. Distinguished by asymmetrical designs, vac-metal chrome and a more haphazard blend of technological and organic parts than the earlier Transmetals. All released domestically.
    - Fiction - All TM2 characters that appeared on the show were upgrades of pre-existing characters, except Tigerhawk who was an amalgamation of two pre-existing characters. The exact method of becoming a TM2 seemed to vary. Dinobot 2, Cheetor and Blackarachnia were all altered by the "Transmetal Driver", Megatron was changed by absorbing G1 Megatron's spark and Tigerhawk was just built that way by the Vok. In the comics, most TM2 characters just came out of the stasis pods that way and the only explicit upgrade is Ravage.

    BW2 Cyborgs
    - Figures - Extensive retools of four previously existing molds, with significant changes to their accessories. Designs were also generally asymmetrical with a random distribution of technological parts, but there was a clearer delineation between the 'organic' and 'cybernetic' components than on the TM2 figures. No vac-metal chrome. As far as I'm aware, only one has been released domestically (Hellscream as TFU 1.0 Overbite).
    - Fiction - All four were upgrades of pre-existing characters: Starscream -> Hellscream, Dirge -> Dirgegun, Thrust -> Thrustor, BB -> Max B. IIRC, it had to do with Angolmois exposure, but I might be mixing that up with something else. Haven't actually watched BW2, just going off the IDW profile books and TFWiki.
     
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    Yes. They're separate categories. Covered, but we can assume.

    Transmetal 2 - Transformers Wiki

    Cyborg Beast - Transformers Wiki

    Given Angolmois energy came from Unicron, we can assume the Cyborg Beasts have a Unicronian trait to them. A Predacon would have be bathed in Angolmois energy to become a Cyborg Beast. Also, the nature of Angolmois energy was suppressed in the series, probably explaining the Cyborg Beasts' ability to retain their minds from being controlled by Unicron.

    The Transmetal 2s are extraterrestrial in nature. The source of origin can come from more than one source, either from Vok fusion, carrying more than one spark, and use of the Transmetal driver/Data Sphere. The supernatural powers come from the Vok technology, explaining how TM2s like Dinobot, Cheetor, Blackarachnia, TigerHawk, and Megatron's powers seem "mystical".
     
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    The Cyborgs were cool, I wish they kept it going. Especially on some Dino figs, would've been like transforming Dino Riders.
     
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    Even design-wise they're different. The cyborgs have sections of their beast mode replaced by mechanical bits, and parts where their beast mode is completely intact. Transmetal 2s are a complete fusion of the two. No one section is just beast or tech. Fur will be on detailed techy bits, and pistons and other mechanical detail will be mixed directly into furry areas, as example. They are very different in execution.
     
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    so what might a hybriod transmetal 2 enhanced cyborg beast warrior look like

    wouldit have all the best quailites of each?

    and hers the big question for me

    did beast wars/beast machiensm egatron become one himself in his failed attempts to rid himself of his dragon beast form?

    in beast machiens the dragon from did look like it took quite a bit of extreme damage over time from maegatron's many failed attempts to ridhimslef of it over time

    to be honest it looked like the dragon beast modes body went at least part way cybertnetic over time due to it attempting to heal itself over time but with the organic and technolgoical properties getting mixed up along the way due to it not quite healing properly.

    hres a good clip of beast machiens megatrons dragon form which to me any way looks partly cyborg like
     

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