Do you think the omitted Autobots aren't part of the series anymore?

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by Shizuka, May 4, 2012.

  1. eagc7

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    The Novels and comics are mostly canon now thanks to john barber as he was able to fix all of the plot holes now from the prequels and films
     
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    IMO, I do not consider the comics canon with the films. They are a great way for fans to stay interested in that aspect of the franchise, but comics just don't fly in my book.

    I agree that the twins are dead( as the novelization says they are) but Arcee and Jolt are another story.
     
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    Canon or not, Arcee and Jolt are dead, otherwise they would had been seen leaving with their fellwo Autobots to the Xanthium
     
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    They're not canon - they were based on an earlier script that got tossed out. If its on screen, it's canon. If it's not on screen, not canon.
     
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    ur talking of the twins death or the comics/novels/games?
     
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    Comics/novels/games.
     
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    okie dokie
     
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    Unless they died on screen or someone or something within the actual films confirms they're dead then as far as the movies are concerned they're not dead. Comics and novels and even toy bios can do or say what they like but they're not the movies. The movies have the last say on the movies. When it comes to BayFormers the movies are the law.
    The most we can assume is that they left to go elsewhere since they're not seen in the films or mentioned. But even then later movies can contradict earlier ones if they want to say the Twins were just kicking about NEST or whatever and everyone simply forgot about them during DotM.
     
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    The twins died I just read the DOTM novel this is what happened if people didnt know

    Right after sentinel killed ironhide and went into a rage skidz attacked him then sentinel blasted him and killed him then mudflap went beserk and attacked sentinel and we all know what happens next mudflap got killed

    (sorry if I got the twins mixed up)
     
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    But the novels aren't the movies. If Bay decided for TF4 he wanted the Twins back somehow he'd have them back regardless of what some book had already said. If the novels were law to the movies then the end of the movie concerning Megatron would've been the same as the novel and apparently it wasn't.

    Nice that some people can find answers to content themselves with in the supporting media for the movie but it's not the be-all and the next movie can easily override/ignore it if it wants to, so novels and comics and stuff shouldn't be taken as gospel.
     
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    Que didn't help build the Xanthium, the third wave of autobots (Que, Dino, Topspin, Roadbuster, Leadfoot) arrived in it. The Wreckers were repairing it, I think, and I doubt the twins would have the knowledge to fill that role. Jolt probably could though.
     
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    I have to agree with this. Things change from screenplay to final version. For example the fates of Dino and Que vs Mirage and Wheeljack. So anything that didn't happen on screen or was at least mentioned in the movie is in question for me.
     
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    Actually it was the second wave of Autobots who came on the ship, aka the ROTF Cast
     
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    And the Wreckers, Dino, Brains and Que. Which sounds incredibly stupid that they were just sort of chilling while Sideswipe, The Twins and the Bike sisters fought with the first wave of Autobots.
     
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    Yes, just "chilling". Not all around the world hunting down Decepticons. "Chilling."
     
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    I don't ever remember Dino, Que and the Wreckers hunting Decepticons during ROTF.
     
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    Skids & Mudflap's alt modes were in DOTM. Sentinel just killed them off screen.

    2 of the Arcee twins were killed on screen in ROTF.

    As for the others, why should they be mentioned? Do you bring up dead releatives & friends whenever you plan to do something? No. They got killed, Prime & company dealt with it and moved on.
     
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    yeah.

    heck, they even didnt mentioned the death of Jazz in ROTF, nor the deaths of Jetfire in DOTM, they didnt even mentioned Ironhide death in same film he died
     
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    That's because they were too busy to pose for the camera.
     
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    That just gave me the mental image of Que and Dino in a "Draw me like one of your French girls" pose.
     

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