Do you think 3rd Party TFs are dangerous/toxic?

Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by oxidative, Mar 15, 2013.

  1. CigarJackal

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    Form my experience RoHS contaminants (such as lead) do not creep into processes randomly. These materials are either part of the manufacturing process or they are impurities in raw materials. ABS manufacture and non-lead based paints don't normally have these types of materials as contaminants. Sabotage could theoretically happen, but other than that I really could not see this being process where toxic materials could be introduced in a significant quantity.

    I have been involved in manufacturing in Asia, Europe and the US over the last 22 years in both design and quality assurance. China is major market for my process chemicals, and I have been in sites ranging from solar to HDD to MEMS to plastics. I have never seen a process excursion that could allow toxic material to be introduced at a significant level occur randomly (again, sabotage is a real possibility, but that can happen with any product in any country; just ask Tesla).
     
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    Oh really? I wonder if it's common for an unofficial company, though. I also wonder how many of our 3rd Party and KO companies actually do use lead-based paints or other products known to have toxins and contaminants? From what I can tell, these companies are created by fans for fans most if not all of the time, so the idea of them using known unsafe materials seems strange considering they would know this.
     
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    Manufacturers in China aren't Captain Planet villains. They don't go out of their way to poison people.

    They do use the least expensive options to produce their goods. Most often lead based paints are the more expensive option.
     
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    I have absent-mindedly put parts of the toys in my mouth (more like in my lips) when there's parts forming or removing or adding weapons/accessories etc.

    So far so good, but I doubt it'd all happen at one time. I do always think about it afterwards but it is what it is.
    People smoke and drink alcohol, don't know how much worse handling a toy could be. :p 
     
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    I test every one of my figures for chemicals by sucking on them for twenty minutes. I then record a log of my behavior the following day. So far, so good, but I see mostly blue now.
     
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    Who gives a shit?
     
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    There is wisdom in what the bear says.
     
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    If you keep buying them, you obviously dont care.
     
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    didn't we go through this a while ago with a guy who was afraid to get aids from his figures because of the slim chance that someone with aids in the factory got a cut and that cut wound up on his toy and then he bought the toy and the dried blood got in an open sore on his hand
     
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    Poor guy. That must be a terrible way to go through life..
     
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    Have you seen the toxic chemical China's factories release into their rivers and streams? Not to mention several years ago China got caught making Drywall that contained toxic materials. Thousands of new homes in America had to rip out their walls because of this. And when the new Bay Bridge was being constructed in the San Francisco/Bay Area, it was delayed because the concrete from China was sub-par and not safe to use on a structure that needs to withstand earthquakes.

    Do they do this on purpose? I don't think they are. But I am not a mind-reader. I believe that they are not sadistic, which is why I don't think this was deliberate. In addition, these are the same factories that produce many other products that are sent to the US and other countries. I would imagine that the plastics they used for those products are also used to produce 3P toys (there are different kinds of plastics, but they still use some of these types on the toys). So the likelihood of toxic plastic is very, very, very low. Not to mention, these same factories do undergo sporadic inspection.
     
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    No.

    China's recycling and production facilities are probably above current American standards.


    ....like remember when they demanded we wash our garbage before we send it to them?
     
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    They definitely go as cheap as they can. If there is toxic alternative that is less expensive they probably would use it. However, toxic plastics are not usually a thing, aside from PVC, which isn't suitable for toys due to its Young's modulus being totally off for the appication.
     
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    China weaponizes environmentalism as part of an unofficial trade war. By making the US adhere to much stricter environmental programs, costs of imports go up (not to mention their flat 30% tariff).
     
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    How on Earth is this even a thing again? Good grief, you find more toxicity in the people around you, inside and out, than you do in your toys.
     
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    All 11 of them? :jawdropper: 
     
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    Agree! :) 

    Agree! :) 

    Agree! :) 

    Agree! :) 

    Just find someone to use Glue made in China to put them back on. ;) 

    I'm off to lick my 3rd Party Transformers! Huzzah!
     
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    I just transformed a 3rd party figure. I'm glowing, is that normal?
     
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