Disappointments

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  1. williamama

    williamama New Member

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    I thought the movie was alright, but generally there were some really disappointing bits I want to get off my chest. All in all its pretty obvious Bay reckons bigger is better, and that substance isnt really necessary if the audience are entertained by hot girls and explosions. thats pretty shit, and I dont want him doing the third unless they remove his creative license.

    1.) Devastator. This guy did nothing but suck a few bricks, and whats supposed to be the ultimate robot was incabable of beating the twins.

    2.) The twins. Michael Bays favourites apparently. They were shite. when people said after the first movie they wanted more personality, they completely removed any autobot ones except prime and bbee, and then added these guys instead. they looked shit, werent funny and did nothing to the story but annoy.

    3.) Repeating robots. Why was it when devastator was up and going there were constructicons attacking sam? and bonecrusher just rolling riound as well??? i guess in the end the answer is to save money and make things more interesting than those gay decepticon protoforms running round. but for a movie thats meant to be more, i thought the attention to detail was lacking

    4.) Soundwave. What was the point of even having him there?

    5.) The Fallen. This guy pissed me off the most. He was so unecessary. And the amount of times they tried to nut in the whole 'revenge' thing was absurd. I think its fair to say from the title we all got it. he didnt need to keep crapping on about it. and what was it revenge for anyway? he was the betrayer, not his brothers for breaking their one rule. and whats the deal with the primes logic as well? in order to keep the fallen from getting the matrix, we'll all kill ourselves so he cant find it. if only a prime can defeat the fallen this is pretty shite rationale to stopping him.

    6) Alice. Without a doubt the most pointless, shit thing in the movie. A waste of 10 minutes. it was like watching terminator 3, and no one should like that film. the whole pretender idea is stupid. I mean, a decepticon dressed like a human, enrols in college, attends lectures, all to get to sam. it seems a bit much dont you think? why not dress like michaela and just go to his house? might save on administrative business...

    Anyway thats my rant for now ( i could go on and on), please add any other problems you had as im interested to hear them
     
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    oh and the whole humping thing. like the dogs humping each other and wheelie humping michaelas leg. not funny. lame. weak. so shit
     
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    In b4 apologists.
     
  4. flamepanther

    flamepanther Interested, but not really

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    Forget the apologists. How about the people complaining (and rightly so) about there already being a dozen threads for each of these same complaints?
     
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    Yeah, there enough of these kinds of threads.
     
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    only problem i had with movie was Sams mom, didnt like her this time around.
     
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    Anti Spark It'S DUB Or Nothing!

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    I agree.
     
  8. guard convoy

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    1)now i will give you this: he was criminally underused, but he did what he was suppose to do and had to be taken out so the movie could end, but with the extra constructicons out there he can come back. also, in the movie verse combination technology is fairly new and it is understandable his forming isn't that stable, so it is easy to get pulled apart and stuff

    2)the twins were used to break the tension in the movie, i found them quite hilarious, in fact, i thought i was going to hate them and i loved them

    3)now this is one question that people need to learn to use common sense on: just cause one decepticon scanned an alt mode (lets say dump truck). doesn't mean another wouldn't just because someone else did. the protoform must hurry to scan the closest alt mode so he can either hide/get extra armor. reason there was two bonecrushers and stuff was cause if two protoforms scanned the same vehicle, their robot modes would be almost identical because it is basically the same vehicle transforming twice, pretty much every vehicle has a set way for the parts to fold in and separate

    4)soundwave was used where he was most useful. he is the decepticon communication specialist. he would be more useful up in space, hacking satillites to get info for megatron instead of on the front lines with the chance of him dying

    5)i also give you this, but nothing is perfect, heck this movie is pretty much a suped up episode of g1 (got some plot holes, but still entertaining). i think the thing with the brothers was they didn't have time to really think about it, they needed to hurry up and stop the fallen as quick as they could

    6)it pretty much showed that anything can be a transformer. and why would the transformers be restricted to scanning just vehicles, it gives an extra sense of suspence to things when you are wondering if that is a transformer or not.
     
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    1.) you are rationalizing this waaaayyy to much. Why is it when the movie presents 1 of its million of flaws they get rationalized way beyond the scope of understanding of the director. Btw there is no coming back both the on ground units and combined were killed. Also from what the movie folks and hasbro apparently say is movie devs is only a voltron like TF no individual robots only mutliple vehicles to combine. All this equals really lame.
    Devastator = fail

    2.) The twins since their apperance are in fact Bays favorite as he alluded too when talking about his favorite characters in ROTF way back. People said he meant bumblebee but that was only after the backlash from fans. The point that proves it is all the screen time they get in light of bumble bee and bumble bee wasnt funny or irreverent like he alludes to his favorites being.
    The twins are borderline stereotypes of gangsta culture. They are portrayed in a poor light through out the movie they are not really that funny unless you happen to like the sibling rivalry thing between them. Even then they are endured as they really only appeal to lowest form of comedy.

    3.) You are retarded if you believe what you just made up. umm where in the hell was a land mine vehicle anywhere near the scene to be scanned. Also whats the point of getting an alt mode when you are cometing into battle. The part that makes this all really hilarious is sure reuse those characters but where the hell is barricade then lol.
    I dont agree that if they scann the same vehicle they end up the same robot thats just denial setting in. This movie got lazy at the expense of the viewer not some fictitious deadline.

    4.) another point of fault. The US would have disabled that com sat well before sound wave could have done anything not to mention Satelite is only one mode of usefull communication and does not complete the circuit so to say. I still contest we wont even see him in TF3 as Bay has shunned him for the fact he was forced to include him. So get ready to find out he got blown up in space in part 3 lol but dont worry ....... Im sure it will be totally "BADASS" lol

    5.) I would contest G1 had less plot holes and better story lines. Vastly mor interesting. I said it before I ll say it again the Fallen was michael bay going ooooh uber badass decepticon oooh he is on fire "i like fire" . lol. The fallen was a poor attempt to try to remove megatrons persona as number 1 bad guy this was Bays attempt at restamping his name on the brand over and over. The Fallen was a shite concept in the comic versus made for those who need to believe there is a robot hell and robot heaven lol. Transformers was more interesting the G1 concept of robots that live and exist on their own from before they can remeber. The fallen was a waste of time and it also destroyed any semblence of intelligence the movie could muster. The twins still sucked btw.

    6.) Gray areas thats the problem why would you take the transformers and start doing terminator things with it??? All it does is makes it not transformers. Pretenders were not a great concept in the overall view of TF lines. Im sure many will contest it but in reality its the biggest diversion from what the brand actually is. This whole thing was Bays pissing match with McG and T4. Bay decided it was more important to get more hot girls into the movie instead of developing arcee and a plot line. End of story.

    Quite honestly this movie was just a bunch of Bay going " I dont have to respect the fanbase they are going to see the movie regardless" lets face he could put excrement on a plate call it wheeljack and everyone will go OOOOHHH its so realistic I have to have it or it will get rationalized to death so its acceptable.

    It's called denial people look into it.
     
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