Did the G1 cartoon fall for the "adopt a child" syndrome?

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  1. joshferrell

    joshferrell Well-Known Member

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    I was thinking about this,it seems that a lot of tv shows have what I like to call the "adopt a child syndrome" ,where the characters will either adopt a child or a child will show up mysteriously,then all of a sudden the show ends (aka:Cousin Oliver from the brady bunch),I was thinking about the Rebirth episodes and it seems that they had a similar thing happen. the Nebulons,one could say,were adopted by the transformers,then the show ends abruptly,also they "jumped the shark" IMO with the Rebirth episode,or maybe even earlier..any thoughts on this? by the way it's good they didn't go down the marriage route to end the series like tv shows will do when they don't adopt a child..lol..
     
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    um what? i think it probly ended becuse it lossed vewers
     
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    Naw, Transformers died about 20 minutes into the 86 movie.
     
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    By Rebirth, the G1 series was already moribund, that's why it was a miniseries. The "jumping of the shark" moment was pre-season 3 when they killed off most of the cast and replaced them with new characters.
     
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    This ended the series, not an adopted child.
     
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    what I'm trying to say is that the last epiodes are written with a similar concept.
     
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    I disagree, since the introduction of characters was secondary to the introduction of a new gimmick used in the toys. New characters were introduced in nearly every episode of the animated series, especially the second and third seasons.

    I suppose on a superficial level it's about adding something new to the "formula" rather than simply new material for the existing concept, but I think you're trying to pigeonhole one trope into another instead of looking at what really happened.
     
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    For me it's the Headmasters/Pretender/Action Masters gimmicks/Rebirth saga that would have killed it for me back in the 80's.
     
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    Possibly, but the reasoning is different. The "add a new cute kid" thing (or a wedding, or a death, or a shark-jumping) is usually a ploy to boost sagging show ratings, where the Nebulans are just part of the new toy line that Hasbro wanted to plug. You could make the argument on Hasbro for doing their own "adoption" as a boost to the TF toy sales, but Sunbow was just following the edict from the Hasbro home office to add a bunch of new robots and alien characters - and try to do it in a semi-believable way that makes the kiddies want the new toys - Oh, and we just cut the budget, so you only have three episodes alloted to do it in. :) 
     
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    I thought it was Ted McGinley's fault.
     
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    So some fans saw the partnership between the nebulans and the Transformers as a adoption process.
     
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    One fan. Not "some".
     
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    Well, im the opposite. Im sure those things woud have made me like it more
     
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    I blame Tommy Kennedy.
     
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    But what ever happened to that kid?
     
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    Considering it was the end episodes, it was already cancelled either way so Rebirth didn't effect it. Besides, the 'adopt a child' thing usually involves what execs think of as 'cute' likeable characters but audiences hate. While I can see the Neubulons being hated, there was nothing cute about them.
     
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    That whole Rebirth thing with the Target Masters and the Head Masters was just like... whaa-?

    My favorite part was when Optimus was talking to Alpha Trion and says that something "Doesn't make sense!" and I just think to myself "Hey! Optimus is saying what we're all thinking!" :lol 
     
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    Watch the "Poochie" episode of "The Simpsons" for a demonstration and explanation of why TV shows add characters for seemingly no good reason.
     
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    Never saw it that way. And never will.

    Something tells me somebody doesn't pay attention.
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    Didn't he end up as some auto dealer because he got humiliated part way in his life after aiming for some big shot role he had high hopes for? Think it had something to do with the 5 part movie segments.
     
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    I'd buy from Tommy Kennedy's car dealership just because the TF Wiki needs more information on him.
     

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