Destrons and Cybetrons

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  1. Wheeljack30

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    Where these new characters or they just simply changed theirs names like Destrons=Decepticons and Cybertrons=Autobots?
     
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    You just answered your own question.
     
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    I just wanted to know if it was that but why did they changed their names?
     
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    Cybertrons and Destrons were for the Japanese market IIRC. Maybe somebody more enlightened can tell me why they felt Autobots and Decepticons were unsuitable. Would I be right in thinking however, that the Japanese do actually use Autobots and Decepticons now, following the live action movie (which also prompted the change of name for Optimus Prime from Convoy?
     
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    So in Japan Optimus Prime was known as Convoy Prime or God Ginrai?
     
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    Up until the first live action movie, he was named Convoy. Prime didn't come into it until 2007.
     
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    Cybertrons and Destrons are simply the Japanese names of the factions. Why? Who knows.

    Optimus Prime's name in Japan is just Convoy, no other titles. But that name ended up becoming a title for other characters, like Rodimus Convoy and Fire Convoy.

    God Ginrai is not Optimus Prime. He is a transtector (lifeless Cybertronian body) that was made for the purpose of resurrecting Optimus, but Devil Z's Masterforce bracelets ended up making it so Ginrai (a human) became binary-bonded to the transtector, and thus it was an extension of his own personality. At the end of the series, the bracelets were severed and the transtectors became unique Transformers, with God Ginrai keeping the human's name (and personality?) as his own.
     
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    So they resurected Optimus Prime in Masterforce if i am understanding correctly
     
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    NO. We went through this. The 'Optimus Prime/Convoy look-alike' in Masterforce is NOT Optimus Prime. He is Ginrai. A human who bonds with a 'transtector' that LOOKS like Optimus Prime. It is stated somewhere that the trantector was originally to be used to revive Convoy. Later God Ginrai (the trantector) gained true life (taking on their human partner's personality) and left Earth to battle Destrons in space. Later he helps Star Saber but is fatally wounded and was reborn as Victory Leo.
     
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    The Ginrai body was -built- to resurrect Optimus but Devil Z stole it before it could be used for that purpose, and spent most of its life occupied by a human pilot. Only at the end of the series did it become a real Cybertronian (and not Optimus Prime)
     
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    Think of Ginrai as Optimus Prime's son. That should simplify things.

    Autobots/Decepticons >>>>>>> Destrons/Cybertrons.
     
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    in japan [till the bay films] they werent known as Auotobots and Decepticons.

    I'm sorry if this sounds rude but part of this question has been answered for you several times.

    God Ginrai is a completely different character that just looks like Optimus.....because he's useing a body design intended for Optimus.

    And in Japan, till the Bay films, Optimus was called "Convoy".

    Some of the series like Car Robots called him Fire Convoy since he was a fire truck.

    This was also answered to you recently in an other thread.

    He was resurrected in [if I'm right,] Battlestars "the return of convoy"
     
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    Sto were did you get all of your knowledge of transformers? cause i would like to know aswell and be able to answer to people and threads
     
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    the last few years I've had a lot of time on my hands being sick.

    this site has plenty of info
    Transformers Wiki - TFWiki.net

    now there have been times I found wrong info there, but over all they are pretty on the ball.
     
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    He has knowledge gained from over the years. But as someone who's just got into Transformers, read the Tfwiki. Tfwiki answers EVERY question you have asked in this thread.
     
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    I am not new into Transformers i used to watch the cartoons back in 84 but then i totally forgot about Transformers over the years until i saw TF:TM on tv back in 07 and i got back in licking transformers again but not as much as i do now and back in 84 thats why i dont know alot about TF history and knowledge as you guys know.
     
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    To add to the confusion, and I'm trying to not sound like an ass, so if I come off that way, I'm sorry, in the US Marvel Comics, God Ginrai, is a resurrected Optimus Prime, so I can see where you though the Japanese character was a resurrected Convoy.
     
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    That isn't God Ginrai, that's Powermaster Optimus Prime. Same toy, but you'd never use the name Ginrai to refer to the American character.
     
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    But... The Marvel Comic Powermaster Optimus Prime is NOT God Ginrai.
     
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    That's what I meant. The toy, not the character.
     

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