"Departed" stirs anger over Boston Irish mob boss

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  1. Jux

    Jux Please, call me Steve. Veteran

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    I found this to be an interesting read.

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    Ehh. It's Hollywood. What they'd expect?
     
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    I kinda thought the character was only loosely based on the actual Irish mobster (different name, different situations, different time period, etc.) but for somebody who had experienced that kinda thing first hand, maybe even loosely based hits too close to home?
     
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    It's a historical event, people are going to write and make movies about it. A hell of a lot more people died in World War II. Does that mean we're not allowed to say the word Hitler?
     
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    That ought to help sell DVDs. Exploitation of true events and the pain of real people always sells.
     
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    I think their objection isn't so much that it references the guy (or what he did), but that they think it portrays him in an overly glamorous light (even though it says several of them haven't even seen the movie ...) Not so much like saying the word Hitler; would be more like if they thought something made about WWII portrayed the idea that Hitler was right or something.
     
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    There are movies that depict Nazis in a positive light. There are countless books, comics and television shows that ask "What if Germany won the war?".

    I'm not saying that these peoples' feelings are invalid. But the media coverage of them is.
     
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    He should fugetaboutit....

    never seen the movie, but looks cool.
     
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    Sorry to bump, but in true TJ fashion I just finally saw this movie last night and I thought it was awesome.

    The actors were really well suited for the part IMO. Every part was played really well.

    I love Baldwin in this movie.


    Spoilers







    I was a little confused at the end though. Why did Ellerby(Walberg) kill Sullivan (Damon) at the end. I mean I realize that he probably found out about him being the rat, but would he not want to just take him down through the system.

    I figured that Ellerby could have been a rat, but was there any build up to it?


    Over all great movie
     
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    Baldwin played Captain Ellerby. Wahlberg played Staff Sergeant Dignam. Dignam killed Sullivan in retalliation for Captain Queenan's death.
     
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    And how.
     
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    Damn it, how did I f that up...I even checked on line for their names :lol 


    I understood that much, but would it not have been better for Dignam to go through the cops and take him down like that. Sullivan will get a proper / honorable funereal. Why not expose him for what he was?
     
  14. Lance Halberd

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    I think that because Dignam took Queenan's death so personally, he wanted the personal satisfaction of killing Sullivan instead of the professional satisfaction of having him convicted and serve a prison sentence.

    Maybe we'll find out in the sequel. The Departed is based on the first movie in the Infernal Affairs movie trilogy.
     
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    I guess that makes sense.

    The other thought that I had was that Dignam was connected some how to the FBI investigation and if a court trial proceeded it would un-cover a lot of sensitive information including the FBI connection with Costello and it would be in the best interest of the police to just take him out.
     
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    Yeah, I've read speculation that the envelope Costigan gives Madolyn (the psychiatrist) has the information about Sullivan being in the mob and Costigan wanted her to give it to Dignam if anything happened. So that ties in with the "F you" thought of it.

    No joke.
     

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