Discussion in 'Comic Books and Graphic Novels' started by Primal, May 29, 2006.
The guardsman reminds me alot of the crimson dynamo with a hint of hulkbuster armour. Aside from that though those are pretty good
I am a dork for DC, but all of those are pretty "meh" to me.
Like I said before in the Batwoman thread, the only one I"m digging is the Archer (who reminds me of a Chinese version of Hawkeye) and the Crimson Dynamo like Socialist Red Guard (Oh, my he carried out the Cultural Revolution! ) . Seven Deadly Brothers is a nice nod to that myth.
Also, the relationship between Shaolin Robot + August General makes no sense to me since the Shaolin monks, I don't recall ever wanting Imperial/dynastic rule. Ironically, they were crushed by the Manchurians in the last crummy Ching dynasty. And Mother of Champions still is IMHO... her name and power just invites stereotypes up the wazoo.
When I think “Chinese Government sponsored super team” I have an image in my head of a team with a matching theme to there costumes, more like a uniform, probable in red and white and not silken robe ancient China looking stuff.
Thundermind is vary Buddhist looking, would a communist government want to promote something like that?
Yeah, the costumes allude to ancient/classical aesthetics rather than communist/proletarian fashion simply because I don't think the latter would look appealing, and frankly be boring to readers.
As for Thundermind, I dunno, I understand that the government does not tolerate Abrahamic religions too well (due to history), but in the case of Buddhism, it's more or less ingrained and accepted into the culture. Politically, I don't think such a character would be favored by the government, but who knows this whole team is Grant Morrison's idea...
"Immortal Man in Darkness gives off dark, swirling vapors."
Give him 5 minutes and Batman could take them all out.
Celestial Archer - Not bad; interesting costume design, although using red instead of purple might be good to keep this from being 'Chinese Hawkeye'.
Ghost Fox Killer - Does she kill ghost foxes or is she a ghost fox that kills men?
Mother of Champions - So very, very wrong.
Accomplished Perfect Physician - Odd name (maybe just a Chinese-to-English translation artifact?) and a power that doesn't seem very useful for combat. "Stop or I'll...uhh...cure your cancer! Yeah!"
Seven Deadly Brothers - Chinese Multiple Man, basically.
Thundermind - Actually, not a bad name or costume design, but I agree that the Chinese government probably wouldn't be promoting a Buddhist superhero.
Socialist Red Guardian - Was 'Red Guardian' trademarked or something? The character name just seems a little redundant. Not a bad design, though.
Immortal Man in Darkness - Beware his dark swirling vapors and...his...umm...immortality!
August General - Looks like a rejected Elseworlds Aquaman design.
Shaolin Robot - I wasn't aware Shaolin monks had access to robotics technology, but OK.
I can't wait till she starts shooting super soldiers out of her cooter in combat.
I'm asian and quite frankly, I'm not interested in this book at all...
And that's DC's problem right there in a nutshell. They're trying WAAAY to friggin hard to create diversity and not just having it happen. They're making what seems like a big deal out of things like this and the Batwoman thing. With so much forced effort, they're just going to drive people away from books like this.
Celestial Archer looks like a leftover from the "Green Arrows from around the world" bit from the 60's.
I wonder if DC knows that the Chinese government actively seeks to squash down those who believe and celebrate "the old ways" of ancient China.
There are some people in western China who still call themselves part of the Han dynasty, even though it ended some 1800 years ago.
That makes these pro-Socialist anciently-dressed Chinese super-heros an oxymoron in themselves.
Here's a new image.
"One of the Seven Deadly Brothers."
What you say is sad, but true. But so far, I guess DC is playing along with China's recent policy of reclaiming the "old tradition and culture" that was spat on and destroyed during Mao's Cultural Revolution.
Well, that's how I interpert it.
Plus, if the characters wore only Socialist clothing, I would find it hard pressed to distinguish them from former USSR fashion.
The Great Ten will appear in 52: Week #6, here's a double page splash (pages 4-5).
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