Is he? Good way to start 2012.


Also, I like that Cyclonus is Skywarp. I like that the two loyal seekers are now loyal to Galvatron.

 

We may never know who became Cyclonus, but I am certain that after the great war, he had a change of heart, joined the maximals and was rebuilt as Beast Wars Neo Stampy.

Fast, loyal, bunny-eared targetmaster specialist. ITS SO CLEAR.

 

Again?

 

somebody close this thread

 

Personally, I still think Cyclonus and Scourge were Seekers. But that's just character preference and way they seem to stick together as a duo like Thundercrack and Skywarp did back then.

And who are you to say it should be closed?

Holy crap, that's stands out! Thanks! Never noticed that before!

 

Personally i think the they all survived and the seekers were just generics and the insecticons were members of their clone army

 

All I did was fulfill my end of the agreement to present my version of my debate which I said I'd do in 2012... know nothing else.

 

lol wut

 

And here I thought Cyclonus was one-third of Reflector   The other 2 were never seen again because what good is two-thirds of a camera? How about Galvatron actually being Shrapnel. That would explain why he was crazy. What irony if Galvatron, Cyclonus, Scourge were the Insecticons and the Sweeps were Megatron, Thundercracker, Skywarp? How's that for a provocative subject?


And people, the TFTM who's who and FIRRIB/FIBRIR will never end. They are as much a part of the Transformers community as Optimus Prime.

 

Well, I'd think it'd make more sense if it was Skywarp. Just because Scourge was Thundercracker.

But if Scourge was Kickback or Shrapnel, I'd see Bombshell as Cyclonus.

 

Intelligence wise, the smarter Scourge would be Kickback.
I believe there was an intelligence diff between original and Targetmaster Scourge.

 

Not to be rude. But why even care who was who?

 

Why not care?

 

This kind of junk is the reason to join a Transformers forum sir, if we were discussing this on the BBC news website, or a fashion forum, then it would be weird and no-one would care. Here, we care. (some more so than others, but if we didn't care we wouldn't be here)

 

I've always gone with Bombshell is Cyclonus. Plus you gotta love Cyclonus doing the front double biceps pose after being created.  

 

I like the idea of Cyclonus being a Seeker.

 

Because ultimately it doesn't matter. You can make the argument that Galvatron is basically the same person as Megatron, but Cyclonus and Scourge are entirely new entities with no real trace of their former identities. It doesn't really matter if Cyclonus is Skywarp, Bombshell, or Chip Chase's wheelchair - he's a completely new and unique character. It's like a Lego kit (or Kre-O, if you like) - whatever the parts were assembled into before doesn't matter much when you take the kit apart and build it into something new.

Plus, you know, it's trying to make sense of something in a show which had, at best, a very loose sense of continuity.

 

If people consider the Japanese series a continuation of the American series, you're right... didn't like how Black Soundwave called those two "second-raters"... I'd've blasted the radio to pieces permanently.

 

It dosn't really matter to be at all....