Cybertronian Language

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  1. BluRayHiDef

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    What is your overall opinion of the film's depiction of the Cybertronian language? To me, it sounds a bit strange and wacky when spoken by Frenzy. However, when it's spoken by Starscream, Megatron and the other Decepticons such as Brawl and Barricade, it sounds cool and truly alien. Its accent seems to be characterized by shifts in tone and pitch and it seems to be spoken at a different frequency. An example of Megatron speaking in Cybertronian is when he arrives in the city at the end of the first movie and says his name in a Cybertronian accent; it's sounds like it would in English, but with a markedly different accent. Another example is when Starscream blasts the Zanthium in DOTM; the camera zooms in on his face and he says something in Cybertronian. Also, do you think there should have been scenes in which the Decepticons speak entirely in Cybertronian and why aren't there any scenes in which the Autobots speak Cybertronian?
     
  2. s10blazed

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    Man, I'm really showing my age by my lack of memory here... but what did Jetfire say in RotF about needing a Decepticon to read the language? Perhaps only Decepticons passed it down. That is one possible explanation why the Autobots don't use it. Although they did learn English so it could be assumed they spoke something else previously. I would say they only speak English out of respect for the inhabitants of the planet they are on.
     
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    I absolutly loved it!
     
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    I really liked Cybertronian in the moves, it was shown in an awesome way. Specially in the Cybertronian Glyphs.

    About what the first two posters discussed, in ROTF a Decepticon was needed because they had info about the Glyphs, but not even them could read them. It was the language of the Primes, and as it seems, neither Autobots nor Decepticons knew how to read them. But the Decepticons had a bit of more knowledge about them. Makes no sense in some ways, as the Autobots also have glyphs carved in their bodies, such as Optimus Prime, but that is something done by the power of the Allspark it seems. Also, in the prequel comics to DOTM, it is shown that Optimus didnt know how to read them, not even the Glyph that meant Prime. The Decepticons at least had the Fallen to read the Glyphs for them, the Autobots...no one. Even Jetfire says that "I know them" about the Glyphs, he never says he can read them. His reaction shows he knew their origin but not how to read them.

    Also, about why the Autobots speak only english in the movies...that's not because they didnt speak Cybertronian. No. They said they learned Earth's languages thru the www. Ergo, they also speak Cybertronian. It's just a device used in the movies to relate the Autobots to the audience, maybe they could have added some scenes of them speaking Cybertronian but they didnt think it was needed. But how could they not speak the language of their own race and planet? It's completely absurd. Of course they knew how to speak it. They didnt know the language of the Primes.

    It seems the language of the Primes was only spoken by them, and they gave the rest of Cybertronians the language they had. If a Prime addressed other Cybertron inhabitants, he would speak to them in Cybertronian, not in the language of the Primes. This makes sense and its something plausible, considering the Primes were some kind of Cybertronian deities, different to the rest of beings on Cybertron. Thats why Autobots and Decepticons couldnt speak the language of the Primes, or read it, because it seems, in the comics as in the movies, it was already a long forgotten language that the Autobots and Decepticons never used.
     
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    I didn't mind it that much. Mainly because if we hear it, we can make guesses as to what they say!

    Plus, Barricade and Shockwave speaking Cybertronian sounded badass.
     
  6. Notbot

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    The Autobots probably didn't speek cybertronian because they were probably used to Earth's language.
     
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    It's also done from a production standpoint to make the Autobots more humanized and friendly and the Decepticons more alien and mysterious. All the same, it would have been cool to see one Autobot speak it at some time. Maybe Optimus or Sentinel quoting an old proverb or something.


    Personally, I really enjoyed it. In the first movie, it really felt good and meshed with the robots in disguise theme to me.

    However, I eventually felt like it was a cop out to not use more voice actors. It would have been great to hear Brawlstator shout at the soldiers after he got back up, or have that random con who jumped into the falling building in DotM call out to the hiding soldiers. Shockwave needed a voice, but I guess you could say he was more or less a silent assassin, he never really spoke much in any language.

    One thing that bugged me was Crankcase and Crowbar talking to one another during the "Mexican standoff", did Ironhide and Sideswipe not understand them? Do they speak a dialect they didn't understand? Did they use codewords?
     
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    Not a big fan of Cybertronian, it never sounded like a distinct language, just random mumbling and a really cheesy way to portray the Cons as evil. I also disliked how Megatron and Starscream spoke Cybertronian both in a completely different voice and at totally random times.
     
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    What do you mean completely different voice? Are you referring to the accent?
     
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    because the autobots have no need really casue lennox understands ervrything right well any way eneoough of me being an ass it aslo makes the decepticons sound alien, cooler and and more of a threat and an aswer to this question the autobots and decpticons r split right the bots wher workers scientist and the cons where mostly millitary and fourth their writings diffrent but they talk the same
     
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    The first time I heard Bonecrusher speak his cybertronian languange I wanted more.
    Great examples from TF1 were Brawl/Bonecrusher/Barricade & Blackout even Megs. & Frenzy had their lines too.

    In TF2, Wheelie also spoke a line or two but nothing compared to how sick Starscream & the Protoforms sound when they spoke their lines. Another character in TF2 that spoke Cybertronian was Scrapper & Mixmaster... it was priceless.

    DOTM we had the Dreads, and you can tell that the cybertronian lines got perfected or more clearly spoken & exceeded the def. of bad-ass.

    Crowbar said the same thing Bonecrusher said as he tore down the freeway sign down, but you'll have to pay close attention to catch it.
    When Starscream was watching the Autobots leave earth in that shuttle, I literally froze on that one shot as he spoke...:drool:  Oh, and Shockwave..that was unreal! I'm sure there are more cybertronian scenes in DOTM, but I can't remember right now.

    I totally agree that we should have had scenes of only cybertronian spoken lines, maybe with subtitles right below the shots. I'm not sure why the Autobots never spoke it.
     
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    I really liked how the Cons spoke Cybertronian!
     
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    I would have liked if some of the younger autobots would jeer Mearing in cybertronian to each other. She realizes they're talking to each other about her, complains to ironhide or Ratchet spurring them to scold the younger bot in cybertronian.

    However I assume they dont speak Cybertronian out of respect to the humans. The Autobots were really prideful on their alliance with humanity.
     
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    Yeah, I liked it. It was a very nice touch, and not entirely necessary.

    I think it's one of the things that makes a the movies a little better then the other series. I think they're the first to actually speak some form of Cybertronian language. I can understand why it isn't done in any shows, but I think at least background characters should speak in Cybertronian in the shows, if even only on Cybertron.

    It just doesn't make any logical sense how they some how know English, despite being in another galaxy. I guess that's Hollywood for ya.
     
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    I loved it! i think it's exactly what cybertronian would sound like, plus i love the designs for the cyberglyphics, but i just wish that a complete alphabet existed :( 
     
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    The movies hinted at two Cybertronian languages - one spoken while in alt mode and more like music and the other spoken in bot mode and similar to phonetic patterns. The TFs language is one of the things I had hoped ROTF would have spent some time exploring so the audience could learn something about the Cybertronians as a people. Oh well.
     
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    The Dreads speak it in that mexican standoff as well.
     

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