Minor/Repaint: Cybertron Dirge WIP *updated 8-13-06*

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  1. REDLINE

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    I've finally started on my next project, which is a step up in difficulty from the ones I've done in the past. I'm taking a Cybertron Thundercracker and I'm turning it into Dirge. Here's what's up. Firstly, I wanted something to help single him out, as his original character was also unique from the other seekers. I've decided that a neat way to do this, while keeping with the realism of the alt mode is to go with a cutting edge new technology in camoflauge, and use a real life desert camo scheme in place of his brown uniquely shaped wings.

    HERE IS THE NEW TYPE OF CAMO TECHNIQUE: DIGITAL CAMO



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    HERE IS THE REALISTIC CAMOFLAUGE SCHEME:



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    Now, I've got a few decisions to make that I have yet to be successful with, and so I'm asking you guys for your feedback/input on these!

    Firstly, I'm having a hard time in choosing between Dirge's Anime colors and his Toy colors.


    DIRGE'S ANIME COLORS:



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    DIRGE'S TOY COLORS:



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    OK, now that you've had a good look at things, I offer up two digibashes: Cybertron Thundercracker done up in Anime colors in one, and Toy colors in the other. He DOESN'T have to be all of one or all of the other, things COULD be mixed-and-matched if it looks right. The points of difference are as follows:


    A)the head

    B)the cockpit

    C)the thighs

    D)the shoulder's aps



    HERE IS A DIGIBASH OF TOY COLORS:



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    HERE IS A DIGIBASH OF ANIME COLORS:



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    One more thing of note, before you get to typing: I painted the missles white w/ red tips for two reasons: 1)war shots are painted white, and 2)I thought this would be a nice way to homage the original toy's white and red stripes on the wings without sacrificing any realism (minus the tips of course).

    If you guys could offer up what you think about which head/chest/thighs/shoulders you prefer (or a combination thereof!), or any other suggestions, I'd greatly appreciate them. I have already fully disassembled an extra Cybertron Thundercracker, and I've got all the paints and supplies allllll ready to go!


    -Andy


    EDIT: I almost forgot! I've not yet figured out what to do for his decepticon logos yet either :lol  should I do the three (each main wing and nosecone) like the original, or the one that's already on the gunhand, or what???
     
  2. Gears

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    OK you lost me. So the final bash is gonna be digitally camoflauged like in the first pic of the military jet?
     
  3. Soundwarp

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    I can't wait for this one!
    Make sure i get progress pics :D 
    OK then comments, tips.

    ref digi images:
    Love that brown
    Hate the blue
    Blue canopy looks better
    2nd head is the better but still a little off, can you make the inner face a little blacker?
    2nd legs are better with the less blue ( I understand the digi's were of 2 different styles but IMO this mould makes us think a little out of the box )

    Thanks it for now, all IMO and tips not bashing you know that you asked me to do it :lol 

    edit: Shit the more i look at that the more i want to do it too.
    Not as Dirge but as a brown Jet without any of the blue in there.....
     
  4. REDLINE

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    YES, but in the desert colorscheme.


    thanks SW, but you didnt' give me any input! :stick: 
     
  5. Gears

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    So it's going to be camoflauged in G1 Dirge colors? I think I get it now, the brown parts will be camoflauged right?
     
  6. Xcandescent

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    Anime scheme FTW.

    I'm not really sure what the deal was with those "LED bars" on the legs in the "toy" scheme ... is that a nod to the foot stripes on the G1 toy? It could work with the anime scheme if it was less gaudy ...

    -XCN-
     
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    The hardest part seems to be deciding whether or not to 2tone his legs and blue or black cockpit? I say black so it wont look like you were using the pvc as a guide
    Blacken the missles, gold the eyes, and blue the ears.
    On the rest use the pvc for a base coat , and detail it out to match the toy more (if needed)

    The camo is nice, but rather see him fit in with his boys.
    And dont forget the 2 big Con symbols on the wings IMO
     
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    I'm anxious to see you pull this off man!
     
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    Totally off-topic here but I've just always wondered:
    Why does everybody refer to the characters' animation colors as "anime" colors? G1 was 100% pure American. Calling it anime baffles me. And don't go saying it was animated by an Asian studio, because the Simpsons and everything else are also animated in Asian studios and they're hardly "anime". :p 



    On-topic: I'd go with the animation colors with a black cockpit instead of blue (only because cartoon Dirge had so much black on his chest) and a tweek or two to the head... Maybe a black helmet instead of blue and keep the face dark gray.
     
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    Thanks, SW :)  Don't go by the specific shades, this is a digibash, I didn't want to make the blacks true black, or you'd not be able to see the detailing whatsoever. If I paint a black face, it'll be black.


    How would the camo make him not fit in, if its a REAL Jet colorscheme? that makes it still a realistic jet, just like the actual Thundercracker toy is (cyb). Also, I was using white missles cause that's what real warshots are painted, and it homage's the toy's white wing stripes. I was honestly gonna leave the eyes alone, so they'd be lightpiped. the trick is the eyes on this toy are actually just holes! kinda sucks. btw, I have to say that when I was converting the digibash over to the anime colors version, I also thought he looked really good with the black cockpit instead of the blue.




    X- the "LED bars" are the moldings on the toy's thigh pieces. I painted them red and silver on the digibash, cause that's how the original toy looks (see the reference photo, its a big assed mid-leg sticker). I merely put that up there to show all the possible options to choose from.




    Cat- right. *L* The JET parts will be camoflauged. no legs or head or arms, just the jet parts minus the missles.
     
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    :D  had to fix up the size on that point :D 
     
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    Toon colors methinks. Less cluttered.
     
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    Definatly put a con symbol on the nose cone.
     
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    he doesn't have any eyes. they're just holes in the face...

    oh, and I'd do the brown wings/blue body jet look like the original, if I were using the starscream mold, since its just a futuristic ship, it wouldn't look odd (as evidenced by the loc).. but I was thinking this way instead for the thundercracker mold since he's a realistic earth jet. I think it won't look right to have the wings different from the rest of the entire plane.

    Here's the same body with both heads, and both shoulder paint aps (since noone's yet commented on THAT part yet)




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    I'm still for the orange canopy.......
    Could you swap the leg colours?
    As in Blue upper black lower?
    Thanks how i have Skywarp........
     
  17. REDLINE

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    why would you want an orange canopy? neither the toy nor the show model nor the comic model had an orange canopy, its out of character?


    well, skywarp has purple on top and bottom of his legs, and neither portion is actually purple, they're just details.. dirge has black over blue...? tell me why.
     
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    the upper leg is black....
     
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    Because it's SHORTER.

    Also, red shoulders, while not strictly show accurate, are a nice accent.

    -XCN-
     
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    yeah, its cause I'm lazy :p 


    ...you mean like this?



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    Andy
     

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