Cultural mindset of the Class of 2013

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  1. Tuxedo Mark

    Tuxedo Mark Well-Known Member

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    I made this post for the Archie Comics Fan Forum, since the characters in Archie Comics remain the same age from year to year, but I thought I'd share it here for those that are interested. This applies to people that will be entering their senior year of high school this coming fall:

    Introduction:

    For the past few years, I have done a sliding timeline post. Archie Comics seems to keep the main characters at around the same age (it varies here and there), so, logically, each year, the characters' birthdates are advanced by one year.

    Since the senior class at my old high school graduated today (indeed, I saw a girl in a green gown walk into Wal-Mart as I was driving away after work shortly after 10:00 PM), it seems the school year is over, so it's time for an update.

    According to Wikipedia, there is 1 person born in 1896 verified to still be alive:

    List of living supercentenarians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The oldest living former U.S. President was born on June 12, 1924. The current Pope was born on April 16, 1927.

    Taking into account only the people that are still alive today, there were 25 people in the world at the end of the 1800s, there were 44 people at the end of the 19th century, the oldest person at the end of the 1900s was 13, 1910s: 23, 1920s: 33, 1930s: 43, 1940s: 53, 1950s: 63, 1960s: 73, 1970s: 83, 1980s: 93, 1990s: 103, and 2000s: 113.

    Needless to say, it'll be a while before we have to say that the original Betty, Archie, and Jughead, introduced in Pep #22 in 1941, are dead.

    For the purpose of this post, I make the assumption that the characters are graduating next year, aged 18 years old, so they were born in 1995. I also assume the summer stories that we see in the comics occur during the summer before senior year (there are at least two comic stories that establish this), and the school-year stories occur during senior year (at least one 1970s story establishes this). I know there's at least one story where they're explicitly high school juniors, and that's the position of the official Archie Comics site (in their character profiles), so, if anything, the assumptions in this post are too conservative.

    What this post attempts to do is try to figure out the characters' perspective and frame of reference for viewing the world. This can also be useful for the Archie Comics writers when writing new stories.

    As we enter a new cycle of Archie Comics stories, 1994 is lost; the characters never experienced it. Of course, I'm aware that people can become aware of things (music, movies, television series, video games, books, etc.) that came out before they were born, but they weren't there "as it happened", and thus these things hold no nostalgic value to them. Also, keep in mind that people generally don't remember things before the age of two (in this case, 1995-1996).

    In addition to updating the information, I have sorted it into rough chronological order as the characters would have experienced them (or, in the cases of pre-birth events, wouldn't have experienced them).

    World events:

    Germany has always been one nation.

    It's always been Russia, not the Soviet Union.

    Poland has always been a republic.

    The Americans with Disabilities Act has always been in effect.

    The Czech Republic and Slovakia have always been separate nations.

    The European Union has always existed.

    Bill Clinton was President when they were born.

    George Pataki was Governor of New York when they were born.

    Christine Todd Whitman was Governor of New Jersey when they were born.

    Jean Chrétien was Prime Minister of Canada when they were born.

    John Major was Prime Minister of Great Britain when they were born.

    François Mitterrand was President of France when they were born.

    Either Lech Walesa or Aleksander Kwasniewski was President of Poland when they were born.

    Helmut Kohl was Chancellor of Germany when they were born.

    Boris Yeltsin was President of Russia when they were born.

    Juan Carlos I was King of Spain when they were born.

    Oscar Luigi Scarfaro was President of Italy when they were born.

    Paul Keating was Prime Minister of Australia when they were born.

    They were 5 or 6 and in first grade during the 9/11 attacks.

    They were 9 or 10 when Pope Benedict XVI took office.

    They were 13 or 14 and in eighth grade when Barack Obama became President.

    Economics:

    Gas prices have never been below $1.00 per gallon.

    Movie tickets have never been below $4.00.

    A U.S. domestic postage stamp to deliver a one-ounce letter has never cost less than 32 cents.

    A standard comic book from DC or Marvel has never cost less than $1.50.

    They've never payed less than $3.00 per gallon of gas.

    Family:

    Most of their parents likely went to high school in the 1980s.

    Polly Cooper likely went to high school in the early 2000s.

    Celebrities that are older than them:

    Justin Bieber
    Zoey Deutch
    Dakota Fanning
    Jessica Flower
    Emma Lockhart
    Bianca Ryan

    Education:

    The Columbine High School massacre occured before they entered kindergarten.

    They attended elementary school (grades K-5) from 2000 to 2006.

    No Child Left Behind went into effect when they were in first grade.

    They attended junior high (grades 6-8) from 2006 to 2009.

    The Virginia Tech massacre occured when they were in sixth grade.

    They started high school in 2009.

    Technology:

    What are records?

    TV was always in color.

    They can't imagine not having a remote control.

    Microwaves and answering machines have always been around.

    They've always had cable TV.

    The World Wide Web is older than them.

    If they're Nintendo fans, their first video game system was likely the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (its debut predates them) or Nintendo 64 (it came out when they were 0 or 1).

    If they're Sega fans, their first video game system was likely the Sega Saturn (its debut possibly predates them).

    They grew up with DVDs (it arrived in the U.S. in March of 1998, when they were 2 or 3).

    They were 5 or 6 when the first iPod and iTunes debuted and 7 or 8 when Windows support was added.

    Music on cassette tapes is a distant memory. Most of the major U.S. music companies had discontinued them when they were 7 or 8.

    They've always had cell phones.

    YouTube debuted when they were 9 or 10.

    The last major Hollywood motion picture that was released on VHS in the U.S. came out when they were 10 or 11. The final standalone VCR from JVC came out, and the last major truckload of prerecorded VHS tapes were shipped, when they were 12 or 13.

    They were 11 or 12 when the first iPhone debuted.

    They were 14 or 15 when the first iPad debuted.

    Pop's would have Wi-Fi and coffee to compete with Starbucks.

    The gang is wired. They're able to text each other via cell phone, watch the latest music videos on YouTube or on televisions in the mall's food court, and use their laptops wherever there's Wi-Fi access.

    Pop culture:

    Songs that predate them:

    Basket Case - Green Day
    Buddy Holly - Weezer
    Can You Feel The Love Tonight - Elton John
    Circle of Life - Elton John
    I'll Remember - Madonna
    Rape Me - Nirvana
    Secret - Madonna
    Streets of Philadelphia - Bruce Springsteen
    Waterfalls - TLC

    Television series that predate them:

    America's Funniest People
    The Arsenio Hall Show
    Dinosaurs
    In Living Color
    LA Law
    The New Mickey Mouse Club
    Romper Room
    Saved by the Bell: The College Years
    Square One TV
    Star Trek: The Next Generation
    TaleSpin
    Time Trax

    Movies that predate them:

    The Lion King
    Forrest Gump
    True Lies
    The Mask
    Speed
    The Flintstones
    Dumb and Dumber
    Four Weddings and a Funeral
    Interview with the Vampire: The Vampire Chronicles
    Clear and Present Danger
    3 Ninjas Kick Back
    Above the Rim
    Ace Ventura: Pet Detective
    The Air Up There
    Airheads
    Andre
    Angels in the Outfield
    Baby's Day Out
    Bad Girls
    Beverly Hills Cop III
    Black Beauty
    Blank Check
    Blown Away
    Cabin Boy
    Camp Nowhere
    The Chase
    City Slickers II: The Legend of Curly's Gold
    Clerks
    The Client
    Color of Night
    The Cowboy Way
    Crooklyn
    The Crow
    D2: The Mighty Ducks
    Death Wish V: The Face of Death
    Disclosure
    Double Dragon
    Drop Zone
    Ed Wood
    Exit to Eden
    The Getaway
    Getting Even with Dad
    A Good Man in Africa
    Guarding Tess
    Gunmen
    Hoop Dreams
    House Party 3
    I Love Trouble
    I.Q.
    Immortal Beloved
    Intersection
    It Could Happen To You
    Jason's Lyric
    Jimmy Hollywood
    Junior
    The Land Before Time II: The Great Valley Adventure
    Lassie
    Legends of the Fall
    Leprechaun 2
    Lightning Jack
    Little Giants
    The Little Rascals
    Little Women
    Love Affair
    Major League II
    Mary Shelley's Frankenstein
    Maverick
    Milk Money
    Miracle on 34th Street
    My Girl 2
    Naked Gun 33 1/3: The Final Insult
    Natural Born Killers
    Nell
    The Next Karate Kid
    Nobody's Fool
    North
    On Deadly Ground
    Only You
    The Pagemaster
    The Paper
    Police Academy: Mission to Moscow
    Pulp Fiction
    The Puppet Masters
    Quiz Show
    Reality Bites
    The Ref
    Renaissance Man
    The Return of Jafar
    Richie Rich
    The River Wild
    Rudyard Kipling's The Jungle Book
    The Santa Clause
    Saved by the Bell: Wedding in Las Vegas
    Serial Mom
    The Shadow
    The Shawshank Redemption
    Sirens
    The Specialist
    Speechless
    Star Trek: Generations
    Stargate
    Street Fighter
    Sugar Hill
    The Swan Princess
    The Sum of Us
    Terminal Velocity
    Threesome
    Thumbelina
    Timecop
    Tom & Viv
    A Troll in Central Park
    Wagons East!
    Wes Craven's New Nightmare
    When a Man Loves a Woman
    White Fang 2: Myth of the White Wolf
    With Honors
    Wolf
    Wyatt Earp

    There have always been at least four major networks.

    Rap music has always been mainstream.

    The Mega Man Internet fandom has always existed.

    Starbucks has always been nationwide.

    Cartoon Network has always existed.

    O.J. Simpson has always been suspected of killing his ex-wife.

    They were born during Season 6 or 7 of "The Simpsons".

    They were born during Season 5 or 6 of "Beverly Hills, 90210".

    They were born during Season 5 or 6 of "Law & Order".

    They were born during Season 3 or 4 of "Highlander".

    They were born during Season 5 or 6 of "Beavis and Butt-head".

    The Saved by the Bell of their childhoods was The New Class (Goddess help them). They were born during Season 2 (reruns) or 3.

    They were born during Season 3 or 4 of "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine".

    They were born during Season 2 or 3 of "Babylon 5".

    The first Stephen King book published in their lifetime was either "Rose Madder" or "The Green Mile".

    The first James Bond movie released in their lifetime was either "GoldenEye" (#17) or "Tomorrow Never Dies" (#18), starring Pierce Brosnan.

    The first Halloween movie released in their lifetime was either "Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers" (#6) or "Halloween H2O: 20 Years Later" (#7).

    The first Friday the 13th movie released in their lifetime was "Jason X" (#10).

    The first A Nightmare on Elm Street movie released in their lifetime was "Freddy vs. Jason" (#8).

    The first Highlander movie released in their lifetime was either "Highlander: The Final Dimension" or "Highlander: Endgame".

    The first Batman movie released in their lifetime was either "Batman Forever" or "Batman and Robin".

    The first Disney Princess introduced in their lifetime was either Pocahontas or Mulan.

    The first Disney theatrical animated film released in their lifetime was "A Goofy Movie", "Pocahontas", or "Toy Story".

    The first Star Trek movie released in their lifetime was "Star Trek: First Contact". It came out when they were 0 or 1.

    The first Mario (platform) games (starring him) released in their lifetime (in the U.S.) were "Mario Clash" on the Virtual Boy and "Super Mario 64" on the Nintendo 64.

    The first Castlevania game released in their lifetime (in the U.S.) was either "Castlevania: Dracula X" for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System or "Castlevania: Symphony of the Night" for the Sony PlayStation.

    The first Mega Man games released in their lifetime (in the U.S.) were "Mega Man 7" for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System; "Mega Man" for the Sega Game Gear; and "Mega Man X2" or "Mega Man X3" for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System.

    The first Final Fantasy game released in their lifetime (in the U.S.) was "Final Fantasy VII".

    The first Street Fighter game (excluding updates) released in their lifetime (in the U.S.) was either "Street Fighter Alpha" or "Street Fighter Alpha 2".

    The first Mortal Kombat game released in their lifetime was either "Mortal Kombat 3" or "Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3".

    The first Sonic the Hedgehog game released in their lifetime (in the U.S.) was "Knuckles' Chaotix", Sonic Drift 2", "Tails' Skypatrol", "Tails Adventure", or "Sonic 3D".

    The first Kiss albums released in their lifetime were "Kiss Unplugged" (live) and "Carnival of Souls: The Final Sessions" (studio).

    The first Bruce Springsteen album released in their lifetime was either "The Ghost of Tom Joad" or "The Rising".

    The first Michael Jackson album released in their lifetime was either "HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book I" or "Blood on the Dance Floor: HIStory in the Mix".

    The first Madonna albums released in their lifetime were "Something to Remember" (compilation) and "Ray of Light" (studio).

    The first Metallica album released in their lifetime was "Load".

    The first Sheryl Crow album released in their lifetime was "Sheryl Crow".

    They grew up with anime. "Sailor Moon" premiered in the U.S. in the year of their birth.

    They were 1 or 2 when Harry Potter enrolled in Hogwarts and 11 or 12 when he killed Voldemort (theatrically, they were 5/6 and 15/16, respectively).

    They were 1 or 2 when the Backstreet Boys released their first album (in the U.S.).

    They were 1 or 2 when the Captain N Internet fandom was started.

    They grew up on "Pokemon". It premiered in the U.S. when they were 2 or 3.

    They were 2 or 3 when the Marvel movie franchise began with "Blade".

    They were 2 or 3 when 'N Sync released their first album.

    They were 2 or 3 when the Wild Things series started.

    They were 2 or 3 when FanFiction.Net was founded.

    They were 3 or 4 when Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera released their first albums.

    They were 3 or 4 when the American Pie series started.

    The Star Wars of their childhoods was Episodes I, II, and III.

    "Mobile Suit Gundam Wing" premiered in the U.S. on Cartoon Network's Toonami when they were 4 or 5.

    They were 5 or 6 when Eden's Crush came out with their singles and sole full-length album.

    They were 5 or 6 when "Yu-Gi-Oh!" premiered in the U.S. and 10 or 11 when it ended.

    Tom Welling has always been Superboy, if not in name.

    They were 7 or 8 when Evanescence released their first album.

    The first Terminator movie released in their lifetime was "Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines". It came out when they were 7 or 8.

    They were 7 or 8 when the first Black Eyed Peas album featuring Fergie was released.

    They were 7 or 8 when the Lord of the Rings film trilogy ended.

    They were 8 or 9 when Facebook debuted.

    They were 8 or 9 when The Bride killed Bill.

    They were 9 or 10 when the Pussycat Dolls released their first album.

    They were 9 or 10 when Bella met Edward and 12 or 13 when they got married (theatrically, they were 12/13 and 16/17, respectively).

    They were 10 or 11 when Taylor Swift released her first album.

    The Star Trek of their childhoods were Deep Space Nine (Seasons 3-7), Voyager, First Contact, Insurrection, Enterprise, and Nemesis.

    The Charlie's Angels of their childhoods were the theatrical films. They came out when they were 4/5 and 7/8, respectively.

    The Transformers of their childhoods were Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Robots in Disguise, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, and the first live-action film.

    The G.I. Joe of their childhoods were "G.I. Joe Extreme" and "G.I. Joe: Sigma 6".

    The Power Rangers of their childhoods were Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, Mighty Morphin Alien Rangers, Zeo, Turbo, in Space, Lost Galaxy, Lightspeed Rescue, Time Force, Wild Force, Ninja Storm, Dino Thunder, S.P.D., Mystic Force, and Operation Overdrive.

    Music artists of their pre-teen years: Christina Aguilera, Backstreet Boys, 'N Sync, Britney Spears, Eden's Crush, Black Eyed Peas, Evanescence, Pussycat Dolls, Taylor Swift

    They've been going Gaga for the Lady since they were 12 or 13.

    They were 12 or 13 when Katy Perry released her first mainstream album.

    They were 12 or 13 when "The Hunger Games" came out and 14 or 15 when the series ended.

    Michael Jackson died during their summer vacation before they entered high school.

    The Star Trek of their teenage years is the 2009 reboot film.

    The Charlie's Angels of their teenage years was the short-lived reboot series. It came out when they were 15 or 16.

    The Transformers of their teenage years are the second and third live-action films, Animated, and Prime.

    The G.I. Joe of their teenage years are Resolute and Renegades.

    The Power Rangers of their teenage years are Jungle Fury, Mighty Morphin Power Rangers (re-versioned), and Samurai.

    Jem is a real singer, not a cartoon character.

    Music artists of their teen years: Black Eyed Peas, Fergie, Pussycat Dolls, Marie Digby, Ke$ha, Taylor Swift, Lady Gaga, Katy Perry

    Betty is more likely to share her problems on Facebook, LiveJournal, MySpace, and YouTube, rather than writing them down in a diary. Privacy? What's that? If she does keep a diary, it'd likely be on a flash drive, not in a book.

    Their lives in relation to mine:

    They were born when I was in 11th or 12th grade and in the year that I got my first computer (which was a Packard Bell 406CD Legend with a 75 megahertz Pentium processor and running Windows For Workgroups 3.11).

    They were 0 or 1 when I graduated from high school.

    They were 5 or 6 when I graduated from college and got my second computer.

    They were 9 or 10 when I got my third computer.

    Real-world Archie Comics timeline:

    The gang was born after the following series had concluded and one-shots had debuted:

    (The Adventures of) Little Archie
    Archie 3000!
    Archie and His Pals in The Peer Helping Program
    Archie and Inspector Sammy Terry
    Archie and Me
    Archie and the History of Electronics
    Archie Annual
    Archie and Pureheart the Powerful / Archie as Captain Pureheart
    Archie at Riverdale High
    Archie Giant Series Magazine
    Archie's Activity Comics Digest Magazine
    Archie's Girls Betty and Veronica
    Archie's Girls Betty and Veronica Annual
    Archie's Ham Radio Adventure
    Archie's Joke Book Magazine
    Archie's Mechanics
    (Archie's Pal) Jughead (first series)
    Archie's Pal Jughead Annual
    Archie's Pals 'N' Gals
    Archie's R/C Racers
    (Archie's Rival) Reggie / Reggie and Me
    (Archie's) Riverdale High
    Archie's Super Hero Special
    Archie's T.V. Laugh-out
    Betty's Diary
    Christmas and Archie
    Everything's Archie
    Jughead's Fantasy
    Jughead's Folly
    Jughead's Jokes
    Jughead's Pal Hot Dog
    Jughead's Time Police
    Life With Archie
    Little Archie Comics Digest Annual/Magazine
    Little Archie In Animal Land
    Little Archie Mystery Comics
    The New Archies
    The New Archies Comics Digest Magazine
    Reggie's Revenge!
    Reggie's "Wise Guy" Jokes
    Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles meet Archie

    The gang was born after the following issues came out:

    Archie (Comics) #429
    Archie & Friends #12
    Archie Comics Digest (Magazine) #121
    Archie...Archie Andrews, Where Are you? Comics Digest Magazine #83
    Archie's Double Digest (Quarterly) Magazine #69
    (Archie's Pal) Jughead (Comics) (second series) #63
    Archie's Pals 'N' Gals Double Digest Magazine #2
    Archie's Story and Game Digest Magazine #23
    Betty #20
    Betty and Veronica #82
    Betty and Veronica Annual Digest Magazine #11
    Betty and Veronica Comic Digest Magazine #57
    Betty and Veronica Double Digest Magazine #48
    Betty and Veronica Spectacular #6
    Jughead With Archie Digest (Plus Betty & Veronica & Reggie, Too!) #105
    Veronica #39
    Veronica's Passport Digest Magazine #2

    The gang was born after the following other media came out:

    the Archie Andrews radio show
    the Filmation series
    The New Archies
    Archie: To Riverdale and Back Again
    the Riverdale High prose novels

    The "Love Showdown" storyline had begun just prior to their birth.

    One of their comic books has never cost less than $1.50.

    The gang was 0 or 1 when "Sabrina the Teenage Witch" premiered on TV and 7 or 8 when it ended.

    The gang was 3 or 4 when "Archie's Weird Mysteries", portraying them as high school teenagers, premiered and 4 or 5 when it ended.

    The gang was 5 or 6 when the "Josie and the Pussycats" movie came out.

    The gang was 7 or 8 when "The Archies in Jugman", portraying them as high school teenagers, came out.

    They were in 8th grade (junior high) when the Freshman Year storyline came out.

    They were in 9th grade (freshman year) when the wedding storyline came out.

    Anyone have anything else?
     
  2. RisingPhoenix86

    RisingPhoenix86 One of Soundwaves minions

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    Reading all that just makes me feel old and depressed lol
     
  3. lars573

    lars573 Well-Known Member

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    I read most of that. All that comes to mind is, big fucking deal time marches on.
     
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    -Mainframe- Well-Known Member

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    They do not have a cultural mindset. It's all about them. This country and world is in big trouble. Huge trouble. Unless something can be done with another generation.
     
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    MTME Well-Known Member

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    I so thought this was a different topic
    I was all ready to lecture about the teenagers I teach right niow and how they don't know what a bibliography is, or what basic third grade words are.
    I had to tell a girl what accumulate means today. I had to tell another one that Africa was a continent not a country then she asked me what the difference was.
     
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    See, if those people played Yugioh, they might just think of "Accumulated Fortune" & have no problem figuring out what the word means.
     
  7. llamatron

    llamatron OFFICIAL MMC REP TFW2005 Supporter

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    Smells like assburgers.
     
  8. Aernaroth

    Aernaroth <b><font color=blue>I voted for Super_Megatron and Veteran

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    "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they allow disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children now are tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers." - Socrates

    Yep, thinking the young are going to ruin everything sure is a new and novel concept.
     
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    Gort Klaatu barada nikto TFW2005 Supporter

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    That's a great quote Aernaroth and great post. I would +1 or like it if I could.
     
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    MetalRyde is an a-hole with a heart.

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    too long, didn't read... most.

    so,this is nothing new? what a relieve!
     
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    RabidYak Go Ninja Go Ninja Go

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    I like the sound of this Socrates guy, what cable news channel is he on?
     
  12. Aernaroth

    Aernaroth <b><font color=blue>I voted for Super_Megatron and Veteran

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    Is that why things like youth homicide have fallen?

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    (Shows arrests for homicide between 1993 and 2007, taken from the virginia board of education.)

    Pretty much every other form of crime shows the same trend nationwide.

    Kids today are just as stupid and violent as they have been for thousands of years, and every generation has been convinced the generation after it was going to ruin everything. But here's the thing: kids grow up. They learn, they mature, and they grow into adults like you or I. If you are desperately concerned about the youth of today, it's in your best interest to do something positive about it in terms of teaching them the right way to behave, because sooner or later, they ARE going to be in charge.

    I found the OP really interesting, not so much because youth today are different than the previous generation, but because it shows the difference in cultural context between then and now. But at the same time, look at how superficial many of those changes are (barring a few historic events). How many of the things described in the OP would you say truly define us as a culture? How many really impact our core values and ideals? Taking Archie comics as an example, have the values and attitudes in the book changed so drastically over it's publications from the 40s onward? Or are many of the stories just as relatable now as they were then (after we remove the veneer of fashions, fads, and pop culture trends)?
     
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    :banghead: 

    It's things like this that keep me from wanting to transition to teaching after I get out of the military... I salute you for being able to deal with such a situation.
     
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    TheIncredibleHulk Find Gary Busey!

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    Wow, way too much to read in that post. Anyone got cliffnotes for it?
     
  16. Aernaroth

    Aernaroth <b><font color=blue>I voted for Super_Megatron and Veteran

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    a lot of stuff happens in 30 years.
     
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    Team Jetfire Pop-POP!

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    Wait... there is an Archie comics forum?
     
  18. TrueNomadSkies

    TrueNomadSkies Airachnid's ratservant

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    You'll have better luck finding him at the old Gas Station.
     
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    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

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    I'm old....now you damn punks get off mah lawn. :mad: 

    The scary part is i haven't graduated high school yet. I will this year, next month.
     

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