Criticisms of Rosie/Carly - I don't get it - Please explain

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  1. Swoop Dogg

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    Two of the most common criticisms I hear about Rosie/Carly are the following:

    1. Rosie can't act.

    2. The scene at the beginning of the film (where Carly walks up the stairs in her underwear) is nothing but soft core porn for the testosterone raging male audience.

    In regards to #1 above, I thought Rosie did a decent job of acting - especially for an actress in her first film. For those who disagree, why? Don't just say she was terrible, give me reasons and examples. All I ever see is comments like "Rosie can't act, she's just eye candy" etc. No one ever points out a particualr instance where her acting was sub-par. Plus I get a kick out of all of us nerds who are now suddenly acting experts who know the craft inside and out. Give me an example of where her acting was not good. I tought she did an adequate job.

    In regards to #2 above, how many films have random nudity in them? The list of movies with random nudity in them could go on and on. Yet those films get a free pass and Transformers (which doesn't have any nudity) gets blasted for catering to the testosterone raging male audience?

    Please explain why I'm an idiot and the two criticisms above are valid.
     
  2. Josh

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    it all stems from the "cool" trend to hate on Michael Bay IMO


    I thought she did a fine job with acting. Not like the role really required big acting chops anyways. They mostly complain because A: its her first acting role and B: She was/is a model

    people seem to forget how many OTHER actors/actresses made the jump from the runway to the big screen just fine. but cuz its michael bay/transformers its suddenly the end of the world
     
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    Point #1 is invalid. She's a far better actress than Megan Fox.

    Point #2 is valid. There is no place for titillation in Transformers. It's not Rosie's fault, though. It's Bay's.
     
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    I agree with you, OP. I think her acting was fine for the most part and very good in certain scenes, such as the one in which she speaks with Megatron. At the very least, her acting was better than Megan Fox's.
     
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    Yes but Milla Jovovich made her big break out in the acting business as Leeloo in the Fifth Element. Even nerds that didn't like the Fifth Element totally love Leeloo. But then the Fifth Element was also the fifth movie that Milla Jovovich had appeared in so maybe Rossie needs a few more films before we judge her acting ability.

    Could have been a real breakout moment for Rosie since Transformers was going to get a lot of attention even in a busy summer for films. On the down side her acting wasn't really stand out acting. On a much bigger bright side for a first movie in a series without great female parts to play she held her own pretty good.

    I think it's still a wait and see on just what sort of actor Rosie will be. We don't judge the acting abilities of people like Bruce Willis or Will Smith just on their Micheal Bay films so it's a little unfair to judge Rosie on just Dark of the Moon.
     
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    The only scene where I thought she stood out well as an actress in her own right was near the conclusion where she convinced Megatron to go against Sentinel, it was fairly confident acting but still carried that undertone of fear that you would expect someone to have when trying to offend a giant malevolent robot.
     
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    My two cents, Rose is a better actress, but not by much (Megan has potential, and I thought her mute acting in Love the Way You Lie is better than anything I've seen from Rosie yet)

    But, the clincher, I like Mikaela character more than Carly. She was no damsel in distress. I could see Mikaela killing Dylan, and killing Soundwave before he got to Bumblebee, and it's just another one of those things that makes DOTM very frustrating. Megan Fox may have not been a great actress, but damn, Mikaela sure kicked as much ass as Optimus (she killed a con, and with no advanced weaponry at that)
     
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    I agree with both points in the original post. Rosie can't really act...she's horribly fake; I could see a high school student acting in a play perform in the same manner she did. I'll admit there were a few awkward lines, but Rosie could really use some help with acting. As for the scene in the beginning, it was a bit unnecessary. If you want to portray her beauty, don't do it by sticking the camera up her skirt. As for Megan Fox...I think she was tolerable. Nothing special, but more tolerable than Rosie as an actor.
     
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    I agree with this. I thought she was adorable when Sam first met her. She should have kept the librarian look. Maybe it's one of the reason Megan was getting pissed with Michael. He wanted to visually rape her with his camera, and she finally had had enough and said no. It's something we will never really know, probably not until one or the other is dead.
     
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    This. Rosie's not a great actress, but she was undeniably better than Megan, and I found her character much more likable.
     
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    I disagree with number 1, quite a few people agree she can act decently and she's better than Megan Fox, at the very least. Especially considered it's her first acting job on the big screen.

    Number 2...meh. The first shot with her buttocks and the scene near the end where it's showcasing her walking in front of blowing up cars are my two least favorite shots in the entire film. I actually had an audible moan the first time I saw the movie with that first scene. And even my mom made a negative comment about the second scene the second time I saw the movie with her.
     
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    People who say that Megan is a better actor have no idea what they are talking about. Of course, I highly doubt the majority of people (film critics included) have read the works of Uta Hagen and/or Constantin Stanislavski, so I don't really know what the layperson thinks is good acting. Plus, there is such a thing as hype backlash... Rosie may be the the equivalent of somebody who just stumbled through a week of Acting 101 but is at least trying, but Megan isn't fit to play the turkey in a elementary school play about the first thanksgiving.
     
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    Rosie is a better actress than Megan. I have no idea why people are saying that Rosie can't act, because Megan is the one that can't act in a Transformers movie. Would Megan have made a good acting job out of the scene with Megatron? No. But Rosie did very good in that scene, and that's what makes her character better than Megan's. She stood up to the leader of the Decepticons, I mean WTF? I don't think even Sam would do that. He just got thrown around in ROTF and almost got his brain cut out. That's point #1.

    Point #2 - I agree. I mean, it's a TRANSFORMERS movie. I know that other movies have those porn scenes in them, but most are not action movies. A Transformers movie should be dedicated to pure action all the way, with plot scenes. BUT, it's not like that scene was 30 minutes long and ruined the movie completely, in fact I didn't have a problem with it. I viewed it like another scene from the movie, nothing special. But on other hand, Rosie is a model, so you couldn't expect something different for that scene. In the end, it was Bay's idea to include that scene, which is not the end of the world.
     
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    Again, your not giving any examples - you are just saying "Rosie can't really act" without citing any scenes or reason why. Why do you think she could help with acting - what is it (in your opinion) that she is doing wrong?
     
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    ^This. Mikaela could handle herself pretty well. She killed Alice, cut off Frenzy's head, and towed Bumblebee into battle in which he killed Brawl. Carly got captured and had to be rescued. She really only convinced Megatron to attack Sentinel Prime. I guess one of the good things about Carly was that she made Sam seem tougher.
     
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    Rosie was only better because she respond to Michael Bay better than Megan Fox and their fore brought upon a better preformance.

    If they had removed in the Damsel Distress aspect of Carly and give her Mikela's personality minus the shallowness = Instant perfect Leading Lady.
     
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    And if they had done that people would've just said they were trying to copy Mikaela instead of replacing her.
     

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