Could Unicron ever work in a live-action film?

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by johnboy3434, Oct 11, 2009.

  1. johnboy3434

    johnboy3434 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2009
    Posts:
    231
    Trophy Points:
    107
    Likes:
    +1
    Well, I just saw the 2007 movie for the first time a couple days ago. I was expecting an overblown toy commercial, similar to some of the... less inspired Marvel issues that I encountered in my big readthrough on the comics board. I realize the fandom is somewhat divided over this, but I have to say that it blew my socks off. One of the best summer action films I have ever seen.

    Anyway, I've already got RotF on pre-order from Wal-Mart (damn IMAX scenes) and am looking forward to it, but I started thinking. Unicron is basically the single greatest enemy in the entire TF franchise, and my initial thought was that seeing him in TF3 or 4 (don't kid yourself; it's coming) would be enough awesome to cause spontaneous orgasms in every male within a ten block radius of the theater.

    Then I really started thinking about the mechanics of it. Scale is a big concern in the live action films, with few notable exceptions (giant novelty glasses, etc.). Unicron, even if he was cut down to Death Star size, would be a huge logistical problem if any semblance of realistic scale was going to be maintained. Like it says on the TFWiki page for Scale, any shot that features a normal TF interacting with a recognizable part of Unicron is utterly ludicrous. And let's face it, you don't create a planet-sized bad guy without giving him a spectacular fight scene.

    So, it seems to me that Unicron won't ever be featured in a live-action film. The only way he would is if they scaled him down to about the size of Manhattan, which would basically eliminate the reason for including him at all (i.e., an enemy big enough to have his own gravity well).

    Your thoughts?
     
  2. Lock Cade

    Lock Cade Tarn Fangirl

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2006
    Posts:
    27,199
    Trophy Points:
    392
    Location:
    Michigan
    Likes:
    +415
    Personally, no. No, I don't think Unicron would ever work in a live-action film. The CGI for a planet-transforming monstrous robot would be far too expensive, and they could never be able to fully show him in all of his monstrous glory on screen. It just won't work.
     
  3. Autobot-Girl

    Autobot-Girl is possibly insane

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2008
    Posts:
    1,490
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Likes:
    +0
    I agree, plus, I don't see any good way to kill him off or drive him away without it being somewhat lame.
     
  4. Unicron the Pla

    Unicron the Pla Cybertronian Accountant

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2009
    Posts:
    422
    Trophy Points:
    76
    Likes:
    +1
    I honestly dont see the mighty Unicron in a live action movie, he will probably end up like Galactus did in the second Fantastic Four movie.
     
  5. Mr. Sparklebot

    Mr. Sparklebot 'Til All Are Juan

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2009
    Posts:
    2,926
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    151
    Likes:
    +14
    Agreed. They already did that with Devastator, pulling a rail gun outta their asses. A very disappointing way to get rid of something that had so much potential for, y'know, devastation.
     
  6. Dran0n

    Dran0n miss me w/ that

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2007
    Posts:
    13,541
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    362
    Location:
    online
    Likes:
    +367
    I can't see it happening. I also don't want them to make another balls joke..
     
  7. Lock Cade

    Lock Cade Tarn Fangirl

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2006
    Posts:
    27,199
    Trophy Points:
    392
    Location:
    Michigan
    Likes:
    +415
    This.
     
  8. johnboy3434

    johnboy3434 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2009
    Posts:
    231
    Trophy Points:
    107
    Likes:
    +1
    Balls joke? Should I look up what you guys are talking about, or wait to see it when my BD gets here?
     
  9. Lock Cade

    Lock Cade Tarn Fangirl

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2006
    Posts:
    27,199
    Trophy Points:
    392
    Location:
    Michigan
    Likes:
    +415
    Wait until you get ROTF. Then you'll see what we're talking about.
     
  10. jerky123

    jerky123 PSN=deadpoolistheman

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2008
    Posts:
    981
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Likes:
    +2
    NO. And if it does happen, fans will complain that he is diffrent from what they wanted. But all they asked for was Unicron, not a Unicron that doesn't have giant ro-balls, or one that doesn't have lines, etc.

    The same thing happend in ROTF. You asked and received:
    -You wanted Soundwave, and you got him, he just
    was only on the screen for 10 seconds
    -You wanted Devastator, and you got him, he just
    had balls and died.
     
  11. Obsidian X

    Obsidian X Dork of the moon

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2008
    Posts:
    2,521
    Trophy Points:
    262
    Location:
    Sweden
    Likes:
    +549
    Hold the Unicron please mr Bay.
    We know you want bigger, badder, explodier in every movie but that would be to much.
    Instead focus on the script please.
     
  12. bellpeppers

    bellpeppers A Meat Popsicle

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2008
    Posts:
    27,739
    News Credits:
    19
    Trophy Points:
    412
    Location:
    Somewhere over Macho Grande
    Likes:
    +27,043
    Interesting question.

    How would Michael Bay handle an enormous, dark entity from the dephs of space that threatens to destroy the earth? Does anyone think MB would touch the subject?

    Jokes aside... I don't see why Unicron- or the Bayverse version of it- wouldn't be do-able.
     
  13. grimlock1972

    grimlock1972 Optimus, serving up the primest of ribs since 1984

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2009
    Posts:
    20,363
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    412
    Likes:
    +2,407
    in other words becareful what you ask more you just might get it as for Unicron he could work in Live Action but it would be very expensive as he alone would require epic amounts of computing power to animate and the plot surrounding him and his defeat /destruction would be difficult to do in such a way it both looks good and satisfies both the budget and the fans so i have to say No as i don't feel all those things can be done successfully
     
  14. SpoonsTheSecond

    SpoonsTheSecond Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2009
    Posts:
    88
    Trophy Points:
    46
    Likes:
    +0
    Well I would like to see it, but I doubt it would happen. I wouldnt want him to talk though, he's more evil that way. Unless the voice was good.
     
  15. johnboy3434

    johnboy3434 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2009
    Posts:
    231
    Trophy Points:
    107
    Likes:
    +1
    You say that like they wouldn't get Orson Welles to reprise the role.
     
  16. Eric

    Eric VOTE.

    Joined:
    May 24, 2003
    Posts:
    26,426
    News Credits:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    412
    Likes:
    +3,033
    No. Unicron's been done to death. I'm thankful that Animated didn't bother doing it (what with the monkeys at Cartoon Network canceling it for no reason whatsoever), so a Movieverse Unicron just won't work.
     
  17. Lock Cade

    Lock Cade Tarn Fangirl

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2006
    Posts:
    27,199
    Trophy Points:
    392
    Location:
    Michigan
    Likes:
    +415
    Dude, Orson Welles passed away just as soon as he had finished recording the voice of Unicron in the 1986 movie... and even then, that wasn't 100% of his voice, as they ended up using the synthesizer because his real voice was so raspy. That was because he was old and in poor health at that time.
     
  18. Harbinger

    Harbinger ecnayonnA

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2002
    Posts:
    1,905
    Trophy Points:
    287
    Likes:
    +421
    only human i want hurting Unicron is Circuit breaker, and keeping that in the comics too. besides if Unicron does show up, i just know the US military will somehow play a major role in his defeat, and that is not what i would think of as epic.
     
  19. John_Force

    John_Force 16xNHRA Funny Car Champ

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2009
    Posts:
    2,375
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    232
    Likes:
    +5
    It would be just like Dev's in ROTF. You see him combine, climb up the pyramids and then get shot to death by some Rail gun.
    Unicron is going to come out of space, start eating Earth and then the U.S army is going to come up with some superweapon that will probably kill unicron in one shot.
    Besides,Who's going to be the voice actor? Lets also not forget about the budget.
     
  20. Shadow25

    Shadow25 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2009
    Posts:
    7,344
    News Credits:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    337
    Likes:
    +20,030
    Here's my idea for Unicron: Remember in G1 when Cybertron was warped into Earth's atmosphere and the Earth began to crumble? Well, what if Unicron is that type, like a sentient "Ultimate Weapon?" He wouldn't even need to transform into a robot. Perhaps, like Sideways in Armada, he could have a herald serve as his robot form?

    Also, super-synth'd Leonard Nimoy for the voice.