Could Jetfire be resurrected if his spark were intact?

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  1. RedWolf

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    Could Jetfire be resurrected if his spark were intact?

    Of course this is not a case of humpty dumpy where one tries to piece together his parts donated to Prime.

    It is not as if they got a compatible sized body ready... Oh yeah they do! If you've noticed Optimus killed the Fallen by ripping and crushing his spark. (No it is not the face ripping that killed him.)

    So if Jetfire's spark were placed inside the Fallen's body is it possible?
     
  2. Eric

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    Considering how when Jetfire tore out his own spark, he didn't seem to destroy it, as it appeared to be intact. So yes, Jetfire COULD be resurrected, the real question is what sort of aircraft he'd take.
     
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    How about this?
     
  4. Mykamusprime

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    Oh sure they can! Who cares if they don't find all parts, I mean Frenzy was just a walking head and he re grew a new body! Bring that old bot back!!!
     
  5. Infil

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    I don't think it works that way. They never brought Jazz back, and his spark was intact too.
     
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    Bring back Jazz, before you do that.
     
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    A Transformer is able to survive an enormous amount of physical damage. As long as the spark is intact, it is possible to repair or rebuild the body and restore the spark to it.
     
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    Could they? Probably.

    Will they? Probably not.

    When Jetfire committed Hari Kari, he'd made it pretty clear that he believed his life had been a complete waste and that he was happier sacrificing himself so Prime could kill his former master rather than simply staying alive.

    Also, they're gonna need a new gimmick if they're gonna try selling a third version of Movie Optimus, gotta keep the selling points fresh an all that.
     
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    Define intact. When Megatron split Jazz apart he was bleeding blue Energon all over.

    Sparks in ROTF seems to be balls of Energon physically.

    Since the Allspark is essentially an Energon cube. The difference it seems between a Cybertronian and an Allspark creation is that Cybertronians have Sparks while feral Allspark creatures don't have sparks.

    So far the only means of creating Energon is by either the Allspark or by the Solar Harvester using the Matrix.

    Which is why as a race Transformers are screwed in the movieverse.

    edit:

    As you can see here sparks are spheres of what looks like Energon.

    Jetfire
    http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:Jetfire-ROTFripoutspark.jpg
    Fallen
    http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:TheFallen-ROTFfacegotten.jpg


    In the movie both Jazz and Blackout died bleeding blue Energon.
    Jazz
    http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:Jazz_DyingAction.jpg
    Blackout
    http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:Blackout_movie_dead.JPG
     
  10. Mister Gone

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    They could use the allspark fragment that is located in Sam's mom's shoe that they missed in the first 2 movies, then again it would probably only work to revive Poopstorm the port-o-potty Autobot that is voiced by Gilbert Gotfried and gets 3/4 of the screen time.

    But I digress, In the movieverse? No, in every other Transformers canon, yes.
     
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    Ratchet stated that Jazz's spark was extinguished, as it couldn't take the stress from the massive "energon loss". (In short, due to being bisected, he bled to death.) :cry 

    Of course it would be nice if they could use the Matrix to bring him back, in addition to Jetfire.
    As for Jetifre, re-make him into an equally retired F-14 Tomcat. (Maybe even one from the real-life "Skull Squadron".)
    As for Jazz, Cadillac has some sweet 2-door coupes in its lineup, I'm sure. Or we could go the cheap route and make him a blinged-out Impala (SS, of course).
     
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    In ROTF, When Jetfire rips out his spark you can see it pulsating for a bit, then it stops. He's dead.

    Although Megatron and Prime were revived, I doubt reviving bots is considered 'normal', just like humans don't just rise from the dead (except when they're superheroes:p ).
     
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    maybe he is dead, but maybe the spark just deactivated because you see that there were cabels on it that there connected to his body.
     
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    Leave dead robbits dead.
     
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    You basically say that all instances of dying are irreversible except the one you want to reverse.
     
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    I don't care michael bay well probly just kill him again.
     
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    Jazz's spark was extinguished as stated.
    Jetfire's is moderately unknown, possibly if it's intact it could come back, but it probably died of 'starvation' once removed from the body, since nothing was able to keep it alive. (Like if someone ripped your heart out. Sure it can survive as an organ donation for awhile, but it will eventually expire without some way to preserve it in the meantime.)

    Megs more or less overloaded on the allspark and went into a stasis lock.
    The same happened to prime, he was in a stasis lock. Both sparks were intact, but they were more or less in an unwaking coma. Then outside factors awoke them. In megs case, it was a repair job and jump start, in Prime's case it was the paddle shock from the matrix.
     
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    His Spark was intact upon suicide. A Spark is usually a solid ball of energon, and Jetfire's was clearly intact.

    RedWolf, the reason the Energon bled out of Blackout and Jazz and the others is because Energon is their blood. If a person was torn in half, you're saying they wouldn't die of blood loss like that?

    Jetfire could very well be revived if the Autobots recovered his Spark.

    But Jetfire made it clear that his life was a waste and he wanted to go out a hero. So Prime would never approve of his resurrection, and the other Autobots wouldn't do it out of respect for the fallen Autobot.

    But the real-life answer? Bay doesn't give a DAMN for those killed and if they did anything, no acknowledgment in a sequel besides maybe a reused animation model. See Arcee, Chromia, Flareup, Jazz, Bonecrusher, Blackout, the Constructicons, etc.

    Jetfire will almost certainly not come back, due to Bay's disregard for older characters besides Prime, Bee, and the Twins. And in fiction, for respect for his sacrifice.
     
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    Bear in mind, although both Prime and Megs died, we never saw their sparks be extinguished.

    Jazz got ripped in two, Jetfire pulled his own spark out - i'd assume that by this, given massive loss of Energon is what exhausts a spark. Jetfire complained he'd been long without it before the tore it out, it wouldn't have had any energy left in it to remain active. Brawl, Jazz and Blackout all bled energon heavily. Similar to human blood loss. Loose too much and you're dead even if your heart/brain is in otherwise perfect condition.
     

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