Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by protocida, Jul 11, 2009.
IMDb.com settles the discussion:
Uh, sorry to burst your bubble, but there already were several threads about this before, and I'm fairly sure one is on the front page.
IMDB is as reliable as wikipedia.
I read nothing after the words 'IMDB.com'.
The source of the info aside....ILM isn't designing robots that actually transform. All of the transformations are faked, so I have a hard time believing the reason we never saw robot modes for Devastator's components is because ILM couldn't do them....and actually now that I think about it, they did design robots who could transform into vehicles as well as combine. Though in the film the bots/drones that make up Devastator never transform to bot mode, we do see other constructicons in the film with the same alt modes in their bot modes.....so there isn't really any reason why the bots couldn't transform into their vehicle modes, then combine into Devs. Doesn't really match with the bit of info from imdb...then again, it's imdb.
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That's a ******ed explanation. So much so that it's probably true.
why could concons turn from robo mode to car mode then combine? not such a hard concept now, is it ilm?
Well, with Micheal Bay, this probably is true.
Hey something else that's Michael Bay's fault!
It couldn't possibly be ILM sticking to their charter from the first movie (as was explained in the 'making of' bonus features) where every part from the vehicle mode had to go into the robot mode and vice versa, and finding this unworkable in the context of individual Contructicons having robot modes, vehicle modes, and Devastator parts.
explination for the constructicons lies in the blackout/grindor issue. protoform grindor scanned the same model of chopper and took on the same transformation sceme as blackout. same goes for the constructicons...END OF DISCUSSION
but grindor in the movie, actually has a different alt mode than blackout.
but still, the reason posted on IMDB is complete and utter bullshit.
it was the same model as blackout.....how did it change?
It's a slightly larger variant of the Pavelow.
how the f can you measure that......did both helicoptors sit side by side? seriously that is ******ed......
Everything is BAYS FAULT ISNT IT?
The licensing for the game points out that Grindor is a Sikorsky CH-53E Super Stallion, as opposed to the Pave Low that Blackout was (the toy still says Pave Low for licensing because they didn't change it).
Just because you're ignorant to these things it doesn't mean other people are.
ILM never had such a "charter". The robot modes have many pieces that are never shared with the vehicle mode, and vice versa.
Without knowing the context of why the game company used a different helicopter doesn't really give you the right to call somebody ignorant about something that may or may not have happened in the movie. The helicopter that arrives in the forest transformers way to fast its type. It is possible Bay may ended up having to use a different helicopter, "the stallion" to do the city stunt work. Blackout was a military issue helicopter and Bay could probably not alter it for the crane rig to do the stunt. Even if he used the "stallion" Io move the car I highly doubt Ilm made any substantial changes to the CGI model that arrives in the forest. So techinaly speaking "Grindor may still be a pavelow in the movie. Just a thought
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