Constructicons plot hole *spoilers*

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  1. tomboland

    tomboland Well-Known Member

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    is it just me or was devastator tearing down the pyramid and at the same time the individual constructicons were fighting the soldiers and autobots in the desert?
     
  2. Empir3

    Empir3 Bedstructicon Empir3

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    Yes there have been a bunch of threads on this, most people are saying that they are many constructicon clones.
     
  3. snkeyes069

    snkeyes069 Legend in his own mind TFW2005 Supporter

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    It's just you. Never happened. Nothing to see here.
     
  4. Mister Gone

    Mister Gone Macro-Con

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    The fan created excuse is that Devs is made from seperate cars, while the robot versions are seperate entities.
     
  5. Ephland

    Ephland Let's Go Rangers

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    To be fair, there are 2 green dump trucks seen in the final part of the movie.
     
  6. Bottom Out

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    doesnt matter, a fan still had to come up with the excuse becuase becuase the movie didnt give us one
     
  7. Mister Gone

    Mister Gone Macro-Con

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    and an extra Mixmaster
     
  8. iamamachine

    iamamachine colonyofcells

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    The reuse of robot designs and vehicle designs is intentional to save money on animation and to maximize profits.
    A yellow Volvo excavator is shown in the ship but when he transforms, he looks like a Scrapper robot.
    Scrapper robot also appears later on chasing Sam and Mikaela.
    In forming Devastator, you can see 2 Scrapper vehicles and not just one. An extra Scrapper vehicle was used for a left hand. There are also 2 Long Haul vehicles forming Devastator.
    There were about 4 Scrappers in the movie, 2 appeared as robots and 2 appeared as vehicles.
     
  9. SPLIT LIP

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    There are multiple Constructicons. They make up the bulk of the Decepticon army.


    They're like the seekers of G1. Except in the movie it's more or less explained where they actually came from.
     
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    asphalt King of the road

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    yeah there were a rediculously large amount of constructacons. But considering we saw an entire ship full of protoforms.
     
  11. UTF

    UTF Manifestation of /toy/

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    Yeah, which were useless because they didn't have Energon to keep them alive.

    Man this movie was bad -_-
     
  12. buickanddeere

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    With that many Decepticons and only a few large vehicles/machines to scan. Lots of duplicates are to be expected.
    A 40 ton robot can not duplicate a passenger car. Construction equipment, battle field vehicles and large aircraft are in the 5-50 ton size range.
     
  13. Mattamus Prime

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    Protoforms often take on the same vechicles in this movie.

    There's 2:

    Rampage
    Longhawls
    Mixmasters
    Two Protoforms that look exactly like Blackout's head
    There was a "Bonecrusher" in there.
    Demolisher was killed in the first scene yet the same vehicle was still the mid section of Devestator.

    So.... Like I said.... different transformers often take the same shape... but look a little bit different.

    Look at the Arcee twins

    Or Grindor vs Blackout

    I heard that Soundwave gives them their earth assignments as they fire down to earth before they even unferal.

    given they amount of robots showing up twice. (I count at least 5 or 6) I say.... different robots... same Earth alt mode.

    If Star Screams Jet buddies were in it... they would probably look just like him too.
     
  14. Mister Gone

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    I think the main gripe is that the plot hole was left for the audience to fill. There should have been a passing explination in the movie.

    Soldier: "Didn't we already get rid of that one? (Bonecrusher)"

    Jolt: "Must be his brother (fires an electro whip into "Bonecrusher's" head and he falls to the ground.) Yeah he looks just like him. :D 
     
  15. dkrolickm

    dkrolickm Beast Wars Predacon

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    Are people gonna start troop building Devestators?
     
  16. Valkysas

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    there is no "fan excuse". hasbro explained the devastator thing at botcon. devastator is made up of whatever constructons are around. he doesnt actually need all of them.
     
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    The botcon explanation agrees with what we see in the movie wherein at least 9 constructicons happen to be around and Devastator was formed from at least 9 constructicons. I saw 2 Scrapper vehicles and 2 Long Haul vehicles. 7 designs were used bec. Overload was there in the movie.
     
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    Hasbro said there are 15 Constructicons in ROTF, but only 7 form into him. Basically, Mixmaster, Long Haul, Rampage and Scrapper aren’t the ones who combine into Devastator, despite the fact that the ones who do have the same alt-modes. We do know, however, that three of them were Overload, Scavenger and Hightower. We never see their robot modes in the film, so we can assume that they all have subtle differences.
     
  19. jazz4ever

    jazz4ever I'm turned on by numbers

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    their are constructicon drones simple as that
     
  20. iamamachine

    iamamachine colonyofcells

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    The 15 constructicons in the movie are perhaps counted as follows :
    1 yellow volvo excavator who was sacrificed for Megatron.
    5 robots
    9 vehicles formed Devastator (2 Scrapper vehicles and 2 Long Haul vehicles).
     

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