Confusion trying to pay Wheeljackslab...US accounts only?

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  1. Paradigm-Shift Prime

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    Hey all, so I just made my first purchase with the controversial Wheeljackslab on ebay, 3 pieces of g1 megatron's accessories.

    So I ebay messaged him after BINing the 3 items, which he says to do and to let him know I am done my shopping and ready for an invoice.

    Today I wake up and have an invoice with the 3 items and a fair $3 'USPS First Class Mail International' shipping charge. When I go to pay the invoice, however, I select Paypal as usual but after logging in get the message:
    "Transaction cancelled...this payment cannot be made...this seller does not accept payments from non-US accounts, please contact the seller for details."

    So I don't know what to do. In the invoice I got sent it stated that I could pay with Paypal and doesn't seem to say that non-US bidders can't in the auction or the invoice.

    Anyone got some insight on this? I've emailed him about it, tried to be clear and concise, doesn't sound (from the feedback threads) like he's the kind of guy you want to annoy or pester. Thanks.
     
  2. Gnaw

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    I know. It happened to me too. His policy concerning International buyers, which includes Canada, is that we have to pay via Money Order. I won a Bruticus off him, tried to pay via Paypal and he told me I couldn't.
     
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    So where the hell does he state this policy?

    And why would he send me an invoice with both an international shipping charge AND stating I can pay with Paypal and that gives me a link to the payment section with the option to pay with Paypal there? Ugh...
     
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    You're one of many people who have been frustrated by his communication skills. He's had the policy for a while now, in the last few months however he's stopped mentioning it on his auctions.
     
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    I was tihnking the same thing. I was browsing his items to quote his policies, thought it seems as though he ahs removed them. I'd try emailing him, though he'll probably tell you the same thing I told you.
     
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    yup, he REALLY should state something at least like 'Paypal not accepted for non-US buyers' in his auctions. And if not in his auctions how could he not state this in the INVOICE??? I just receive the invoice and how does he even expect me to know this policy and make payment??? (again, the invoice tells me to follow the link to make a payment with Paypal).

    So is there a certain colour money order or whatever I'm going to have to get? Never done a non-paypal payment for ebay before. And getting this money order is going to cost me something too I assume? Grumble grumble...
     
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    I used Bidpay.
     
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    Sorry what's Bidpay?
     
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    www.bidpay.com

    Essentially, it creates the Money Order for you. Just fill in all the info, get out your credit card and pay. They'll ship it off to wheeljackslab, and when he gets it he'll mail you the stuff. Takes maybe a week for the MO to reach the person.
     
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    Cool, thanks. So do I pay a service fee or something in using Bidpay? Do you have to become a verified member like with Paypal? And Wheeljackslab accepts that obviously if you've done it before?

    Thanks a lot for the help Gnaw!
     
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    You might have to pay a fee, I forget. it was about 2 years ago that i did it. Never bought from him again.

    I think you have to sign up for an account, but nothing to big.

    He should. Like I said, email before you do anything to see if he's maybe changed his policy again.
     
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    Here's his email back to me and my response:




    Hello again,
    So yes I did see that the auctions stated as you quote in your first paragraph here (though a clear 'Paypal not accepted for non-US bidders' in the auction would certainly help). I was more confused once the invoice came in, which still seemed to indicate I could pay with Paypal and didn't provide any info how I could and couldn't pay as an international buyer.

    Anyways, I've spoken to someone else from Canada who's bought off you before and he said he ended up using Bidpay to send you a money order. Is this an acceptable form of payment for you? If so I will proceed with that.
    Thanks,
    Grey.

    Quoting wheeljackslab <wheeljackslab@adiis.net>:

    > Auction did say "Foreign Bidders: I ship anywhere, but you need to ask
    > about shipping, insurance and payment options as the posted information
    > applies to USA bidders only. Paypal shipments require trackable
    > shipping and may not be funded with a credit card."
    >
    > This is an email is designed to cover all my current payment options.
    > First no matter how you pay make sure to send your address and list
    > what you won with payment. No list no shipment.
    >
    > 1. Travelers checks or Travelers checks I am not sure who all issues
    > these, but banks and American Express do, but they need to be in
    > dollars.
    >
    > 2. Money orders, not always called a money order, but what it is, a
    > payment from your country in usa dollars that is cashable here. What
    > this means is on the money order it will have a US bank listed where it
    > can be cashed. These are gotten at banks and post offices.
    >
    > 3. Cash dollars sent via the mail, if you send cash 4 things that make
    > it safe: no change/coins always round up, use big bills, not 1's, if
    > your total is $100 for example get a $100 bill (the thinner the
    > envelope the better), conceal cash into a card such as a used birthday
    > card, post cards or the like, finally send cash registered. Now in 7
    > years I have only had 1 cash payment go missing that I am aware of, it
    > was sent unregistered.
    >
    > 4. Bank Transfers, are accepted, HOWEVER, as my bank accesses a $20
    > fee it is not a good option unless you are buying a lot of items. As
    > you will be assessed this fee on top of your total, not to mention you
    > have a fee at your bank as well.
    >
    > 5. For all you who do not understand paypal as well as I do you better
    > read this closely if you yourself accept international paypal. If a
    > shipment is sent out without tracking, and there is a complaint paypal
    > will remove the funds from your account and give it back to the buyer.
    > What this means is you have to have proof of mailing and proof of
    > mailing in the usa really means sending ems, and sending ems is
    > incredibly expensive even sending just an mini-autobot is $20 or
    > so!!!!! This will involve you paying higher shipping and sending to an
    > alternate paypal account of mine, I setup for those who want to use it.
    > I understand lots and if not the majority of other sellers do not
    > understand this and have not been exposed to the problem. But when you
    > see a large sellers saying "only ship to confirmed address", "no
    > foreign paypal", or no paypal at all" this is precisely why, they got
    > royally screwed on paypal by someone. So if you choose this options it
    > is from bank accounts or balances only, no credit cards. Now before you
    > say this is unfair, well us bidders pay for trackable shipping the
    > difference is it is 50 cents more versus about $15 more.
    >
    > 6. Western Union wires and other wire transfers are not an option
    > unless the order is over $1000. I do not have a western union office
    > within 30 miles of me. As for the other wire services I have no clue
    > where the nearest branch is, further than that though.
    >
    > 7. Foreign currency or checks are not permitted under any condition.
    >
    > 8. Credit cards, I can not process credit cards, I can only process
    > them through paypal.
    >
    > Make payable to "wheeljackslab"
    >
    > My address:
    > Wheeljackslab
    > po box 552
    > Eldora IA 50627
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Wheeljackslab
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message ----- From: <graydon.gibbins@utoronto.ca>
    > To: <wheeljackslab@adiis.net>
    > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 10:51 AM
    > Subject: Re: Your invoice for eBay purchases - item #
    > 130123607243,130126040489, 130126040498, Megatron Scope Middle G1
    > Transformers, MegatronScope Forward End G1 Transformers, Megatron Stock
    > Bottom Tripod G1Transformers
    >
    >
    >> Hello, so everything looks good but when I go to pay through ebay
    >> selecting paypal I get the notice:
    >>
    >> "Transaction cancelled. This seller does not accept payments from
    >> non-US accounts, please contact the seller for details."
    >>
    >> I'm not sure what the problem is, this email with an international
    >> shipping charge states I can pay with Paypal. (I am in Toronto,
    >> Canada).
    >>
    >> So if you have any insight into this issue let me know and I'll get
    >> paid up as soon as I can.
    >>
    >> Thanks,
    >> Grey.
    >>
    >>
    >> Quoting "eBay Member: wheeljackslab" <checkout@ebay.ca>:
    >>
    >>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
    >>> eBay sent this message to Graydon Gibbins (greydawn13).
    >>> Your registered name is included to show this message originated from eBay.
    >>> Learn more: http://pages.ebay.ca/help/confidence/name-userid-emails.html
    >>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
    >>>
    >>> Dear greydawn13,
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Thank you for your purchases. The total for your items below is US
    >>> $25.00.This revised invoice contains items you have purchased from
    >>> wheeljackslab, but which are not marked as paid yet. Click the Pay
    >>> Now button to pay for all your purchases now.
    >>>
    >>
    >>>
    >>> You can pay me securely with any major credit card through PayPal.
    >>> I accept the following payment methods: PayPal; credit card;
    >>> Personal cheque; money order.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> ============================================================
    >>> Item #/Item Title Qty Price
    >>> ============================================================
    >>> 130123607243 1 US $5.00
    >>> Megatron Scope Middle G1 Transformers
    >>>
    >>> 130126040489 1 US $6.00
    >>> Megatron Scope Forward End G1 Transformers
    >>>
    >>> 130126040498 1 US $11.00
    >>> Megatron Stock Bottom Tripod G1 Transformers
    >>>
    >>> ------------------------------------------------------------
    >>> Subtotal: US $22.00
    >>> Shipping and handling via USPS First Class Mail International: US $3.00
    >>>
    >>> ----------------------
    >>> Total: US $25.00
    >>>
    >>> I offer the following shipping options:
    >>> USPS First Class Mail International: US $3.00
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> With payment you must include your name, address and what you bought.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Please email me at wheeljackslab@adiis.net if you have any questions.
    >>>
    >>> If you want to mail your payment, please send it and include a
    >>> copy of this email to:
    >>>
    >>> Wheeljackslab
    >>> PO BOX 552
    >>> Eldora, IA 50627
    >>> United States
    >>>
    >>> Thank you again for your purchases.
    >>>
    >>> wheeljackslab
    >>>
    >>> ---
    >>> Shipping is listed in the auction, if you bought multiple items or
    >>> live outside the USA email me for a total. Remember to add
    >>> insurance if you would like it.
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    Yeah, Bidpay covers Money Orders/ Westren union IIRC.
     
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