Heavy/Scratch: Combiner Wars Liokaiser

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  1. echotransformer

    echotransformer Well-Known Member

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    Hi Everyone,

    This project has been nearly 6 months in development! It took a lot of twists and turns and I must say there was a huge amount of learning for me, so I decided to post a lot of the steps for those who are interested.

    If you want to skip right to the final result, jump to the next post.

    Before I get into the story, I want to shout out to a few key people:

    1. SteamSheild. Steam sheild is THE MAN. I discovered his awesome headsculpts, and when I ran into an issue with the head being too small, he helped scale it up. He was super patient with me, did a fantastic job so huge THANKS! (Steam Shield's Bot Foundry by SteamShield - Shapeways Shops)

    2. These project pages:
    Rotorstorm's Liokaiser: Heavy/Scratch: - Combiner Wars Leokaiser part 4 Leozack

    Allew's Jallguar: Minor/Repaint: - CW Jallguar for Platinum Edition Liokaiser

    Ultraman Zoffy's Liokaiser: Minor/Repaint: - The More "Liokaiser'ish" Liokaiser WIP

    And Kdog's Liokaiser: Minor/Repaint: - liokaiser

    Boy Blunder's digital mockups, check them out: Press "A" to game!, First off, I have to give props to speedfreak01...

    I looked at all of them during my project and they were very helpful, thanks for the inspiration guys.

    3. For selling me a G2 Air Raid, "Wervenom" of Cybertron.ca...woo hoo, a big find because Air Raid is sold out, like everywhere!

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    So the minute Hasbro announced Combiner Wars Liokaiser, I HAD to make him a 6 member team...so the question wasn't "IF" but "HOW". I decided that even if I had to use Popsicle sticks and sticky tape, come hell or high water I was going to have a proper CW Liokaiser.

    So I set some project goals:

    1. 6 member team, all CW deluxe
    2. Parts forming is acceptable
    3. Posable (if possible)


    THE STARTING POINT

    So I decided that Air Raid and either Hound or Swindle would make a good Leozack and Jaruga, respectively. But by the time I really decided this it was really hard to find these guys at retail! By luck I ran into a G2 Air Raid auction on Ebay, and a Swindle at Winners.

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    Here I am on my back deck, figuring out how to mash these guys together...simple enough, right? At this point I was using CW Hound but in the end I used CW Swindle...

    THE FRAME

    So my theory was that I could build some kind of frame around the figures to join them all together. So I did my usual trick of making something out of Lego to gain a basic understanding of the issues and see if this kind of approach was viable.

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    This little exercise was quite motivating, but it's amazing how many problems it DIDN'T solve...but more on that in a bit...

    My first goal was go get all the geometry into my CAD program so I could at least start to wrap my head around the physical space it could occupy. Once complete, It became clear--not only do I need to locate 6 combiner ports, but I also need to build ratchets for splaying the legs, rotating the legs and even some kind of thigh swivel. Suddenly this project felt a LOT bigger.

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    Ok, I had done ankle ratchets before, how hard could it be? I decided just to wing it and make a gear-tooth system with the understanding this thing might simply detonate the first time I articulte the legs. What the hell, right?

    Something that really helped was fixing in space the ratchets and the CW sockets. This gave me a blank canvas.

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    One of the big challenges that was slowing me down was figuring out how to slide or clamp Jaruga and Leosack into the frame..I wanted to be sure I could assemble and disassemble him easily. One day I pulled away from the CAD and did a lot sketching, and had a breakthrough when I came up with this sketch.

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    At this point I decided to make the neck and shoulders separate from the trunk, and shape everything on an angle. In addition, I decived to make the thighs clamp on either side of Jaruga, isntead of swivel, making the geometry much simpler.

    So, after dozens of hours, I ended up with this nest of parts, ready to order from Shapeways:

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    I also whipped up some feet and ordered a extra set of articulated hands I had modelled a while ago. I'll admit I rushed this part a bit, plus I was feeling pretty burned out from all the problem solving in virtual space.

    Now a tricky part for me was the head, and at one point I was starting to model the head myself. But then I ran into SteamSheild's thread and I WAS SO RELIEVED...I could simply order from his story. This was a HUGE motivator for me to push hard and get the project done because a huge amount of work was reduced.

    I placed the order and parts arrived. Here's the Lego frame vs. the assembled Shapeways frame. I am shocked to say it actually worked with only a minor bit of sanding here and there.

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    The feet, on the other hand, were an unmitigated disaster. Although i had used a reference image of Liokaiser, in practice they ended up looking WAY too much like Grandpa Simpson's slipper...and it didn't take long before I started figuring out how to improve the shape.

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    More to the point, when I started putting everything together...well let's just say I was NOT happy. Not in the least. It looked...well...terrible. The head was WAY too small, the feet looked terrible, the hands were way too small, the thighs were wobbly...It was starting to look like things weren't going to come together. But I decided that I could probably modify this stuff with styrene, and even though I hand't fabricated parts in a while I could probably get into the swing of things, so I started cutting and shaping my way to a better look.

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    I also took an older, failed set of hands from a prvious project, and grafted CW thumbs onto them for a beefier look.

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    I also needed to fabricate reinforcements and pins into the thighs to tighten the ratchets. I used brass for the pins.

    And even the waist needed help...although initially I was going to sculpt in styrene, I ended up modifying some old Shapeways parts instead, and figuring out a way to attach them to the thighs.

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    In the meantime, I also needed to start Painting Leosack and Jaruga. Here are my color references and my disassembled G2 Air Raid. Oh many, is it ever hard painting over such a nice figure!

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    I did paint the Swindle and Air Raid heads, but I was SO glad I had the SteamSheild heads on the way. You can see they just weren't the right look!

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    Lastly, I put everything together for a digital mockup PRIOR to painting. I tried a few different approaches and here's where I landed.

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    Finally, the Shapeways parts went in for a cleaning, ready to be painted.

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    In the meantime, Steamsheild and I were going back and forth on the head design. I had a rough plasticine mockup to size the head. Steamsheild was most helpful and patient!

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    So that's about it...after that, I simply completed the painting and putting the whole thing together. Please enjoy the completed pics next post.

    The end result turned out pretty good...I do find the head a bit too big, which is my fault...I saw how small the head was then I thought "that needs to be WAY bigger" and I went overboard. But you know what, the original G1 toy head was pretty big too! Oh well, live and learn.

    Also, I'm still not 100% happy with the hands or feet, but that's ok...no project is ever perfect. At this point I'm glad it's done...and it was really rewarding to get to the finish line.

    Overall, it was a huge learning project for me. Here are some key learning moments for me:

    1. Ratchets are very hard to engineer
    2. Fixing 6 bots in space isn't easy, even with CAD and Lego!
    3. Proportions on a 6-bot combiner are tricky, especialy when you have to work around the limitations of all members
    4. Persistence is key
    5. Working with styrene is theraputic!

    Thanks everyone for checking it out.

    All the best,

    Echo
     

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  2. echotransformer

    echotransformer Well-Known Member

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    Okay, let's start with Leozack:

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    Now Jaruga (Jallguar?)

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    DOSE HEAD SCULPTS!!!

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  3. echotransformer

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    Ok, let's get him COMBINED!!!

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    UPDATE: I have tried him out with "Simple version" PE-style feet...what do you think?

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    Your amazing excellent job question liokaiser had this nunchuck kind of weapon in the show do you plan on making something similar to that?
     
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    You're the first person I see to successfully make Liokaiser a 6 bot combiner.

    And man does this looks good:drool: , great job and amazing result, Im still hoping that Takara comes out of nowhere with a 6-bot Liokaiser but yours looks straight up great:rock 
     
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  6. Unicron9

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    HO-LEE-SHIT that was some serious undying relentless insane powerful unyielding determination you had there, and the results are bad ass. Congrats man.
    Good job sharing how you got there too.
     
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    woweeeeeee this is just perfect
     
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    This is going down in history, as one of the best Radicons creations! The way he scales with Star saber is Perfect.

    BTW, what did you do to defensor? He looks awesome!
     
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    I'm sorry, but I just can't describe how amazing of a job you did on this guy! :thumb 
     
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    Great work!
     
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    you're my hero, echo! it is this kind of stuff that...
    *slowly looks over at perfect effect, and possibly hasbro/takara*
    ... someone with very capable abilities and skilled with combiners should give make....
    *just keeps staring*
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    seriously though, this is amazing! i'm just happy to see your work again!
     
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    Looks great with all the work you've put into this guy, no doubt! Although, I might have given his slippers a little more height and not so flat, but that's just me. Otherwise, this is one awesome looking project!

    (I REALLY want the Defensor Groove/Water trailer leg combination thing for my Defensor!)
     
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    Wow! The thought that went into planning his is impressive and inspirational. Very well done!
     
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    Mad props to you. I'd pay to have those Jallguar and Leozack alone. :thumb 
     
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    YES! So much YES! This is the best Liokaiser I've ever seen! Thank you for bringing my favorite combiner to life!
     
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    I'm absolutely stunned. That is so dead on that it's hard to believe. Awesome job!
     
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    Would you like my wallet for that? You can have it. Go on, take it.

    No?


    How about my bank account?
     
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    Incredible work! Looks so much better than the original torso bot!
     
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    bloody hell that is impressive work indeed!
     
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    This is the best liokraiser I've ever seen. Great job!
     

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