CLASSICS MOLDS: Obvious Repaints are Obvious.

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  1. TheBigMachine

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    Okay, so I wanted to start a thread to help Hasbro with what they like to do anyways... repaints. I thought it be cool for us to suggest:

    -What repaints (some w/ minor retools, like new heads) Hasbro should do of EXISTING Classics (Universe 2.0/Generations/RTS/etc.) molds.

    -What repaints (w/minor retools) Hasbro should do of HOPEFUL, FUTURE Classics molds (ex. Trailbreaker > Hoist --or-- Arcee > Elita One)


    Please, no "I hate repaints" comments. We know Hasbro is going to do them and we all know that it might be the best way for us to get some lesser known characters out there. Also, the sky is the limit here in terms of obscure characters. And don't worry about who should come out first before whoever, just let the ideas fly...

    EDIT: Also, let's see some DIGIBASHES of possible repaints!
     
  2. TheBigMachine

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    Here's my list (modified from a post I did somewhere else):


    Existing Molds:
    - Beachcomber > Buggyman
    - Blurr/Drift > Boss (G2), Deadlock, Slywire/Sixspeed (aka-Spychanger Sideswipe), W.A.R.S (Spychanger)
    - Bumblebee > Bumper, Chase, Freeway, Glyph, Gold Bug, CJ (w/ Correct Head), BB (G2), Hubcap, Searchlight, Tap Out, Black BB, Black CJ
    - Cosmos > Pathfinder (Gobot)
    - Darkmount > Defendor (Gobot), Demolisher (Armada), Rook/Crook (G2), Impactor
    - Grapple > Hauler
    - Hound > Detritus, Growl, Rollbar, Swindle
    - Inferno > Artfire, Hot Spot
    - Ironhide > X-Brawn (RID), Skids (G1),
    - Jetfire (Voyager) > Cloudburst, , Leader-1 (Gobots), Triggerhappy
    - Jazz > Dead End, Jazz(G2), Kick-Off, Ricochet(Stepper), Zoom-Zoom
    - Kup > Orion Pax, Oxide (aka-RID Ironhide), Reverb, Small Foot (Gobot)
    - Mirage > Barricade (G1), Counterpoint (aka-RID Mirage), Indy Heat (aka-RID Skid-z)
    - Optimus Prime (Voyager) > Prime(Diaclone), Prime(Black, They've already made it just release the damn thing already!), Overload
    - Optimus Prime, Laser G2 > Scourge, Nemesis, OP(Black/Powered), Toxitron
    - Perceptor > Magnificus, Soundwave
    - Powerglide > Hot House, Bad Boy (Gobot)
    - Prowl > Streetwise, Nightbeat, Minerva, Bluestreak(Diaclone)
    - Ramjet > Fitor (Gobot)
    - Ravage > Howlback
    - Rodimus > Nitrostreak, Pointblank, Psycho (Gobot)
    - Scourge > Alpha Trion, Devcon
    - Sea Spray > Bilge (Deep Dive?), Waterlog
    - Sideswipe/Sunstreaker > Breakdown, Clamp Down, Dead End, Deep Cover (Black Sideswipe), Firecracker (Gobot, Blue Sideswipe), REV, Sideswipe(G2), Tigertrack (Yellow Sideswipe), Wildrider
    - Silverbolt > Skyquake, Space Case
    - Starscream > Leader-1 (Gobots), Last Rainmaker, Slipstream, Starscream (G2), Sunstorm, Thundercracker(Action Master)
    - Terradive > Falcia, Terrorsaur
    - Tomahawk > Cop-Tur (Gobot), Over-Run, Rotorstorm, Spinister, Tracer, Whirl
    - Thunderwing > Black Shadow, Darkscream, Jhiaxus
    - Tracks > Downshift, Road Rage
    - Warpath (Deluxe) > Destroyer (Gobot), Gutcruncher(Sparkcrusher)
    - Wheeljack > Backtrack, Daytonus, Getaway, Marlboor (natch), Overide (earth-mode), Road Rage, Slicer
    - Windcharger > Overdrive, Rook, Skram, Stallion (Gobot), Tailgate, Windcharger(Black), Windcharger(Diaclone Estrela Blue), Windbreaker, Zap
    - Wreck-Gar > Cykill (Gobots), Oilslick

    Hopeful, Future Molds (at least Deluxe unless otherwise noted):
    - Alpha Trion > Vector Prime
    - Arcee > Elita One, Chromia, Moonracer, Firestar, Greenlight, Lancer, Nightbird, Crasher (Gobot), Flareup, Flamewar (Preferably these would get at least 1 more fembot mold, but probably not), Paradron Medic
    - Blitzwing > Overcharge
    - Brawl > Bombshock, Guzzle, Megatron(G2)
    - Brawn > Outback, Black Gong
    - Breaker > Dropshot
    - Camshaft > Blackjack
    - Chase > Freeway
    - Cosmos (Voyager) > Pathfinder (Deluxe or Voyager)
    - Gears > Swerve, Smallfoot
    - Huffer > Pipes, Road Ranger
    - Insecticon: Bomshell > Salvo
    - Insecticon: Kickback > Shot Hole
    - Insecticon: Shrapnel > Zaptrap
    - Runabout > Runamuck
    - Skids > Screech (Mudflap), Crosscut
    - Soundwave > Soundblaster
    - Trailbreaker > Hoist, Scratch (Gobot), Trailbreaker (Diakron Blue & Diaclone Yellow)
    - Windcharger (Deluxe) > Overdrive, Rook, Skram, Tailgate, Windcharger(Black), Windcharger(Diaclone Estrela Blue), Windbreaker, Zap


    EDIT: This post has been adjusted from input from all posters in this thread. It's probably not perfect, okay!
     
  3. Nightrain

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    They could have made evil Wheeljack from yet another Sideswipe redeco. Maybe even in a set with Hot Shot.
     
  4. Ramrider

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    Just to point out, even minor retools of existing figures aren't generally considered to be practical; they cost almost as much to do as a new mould.

    You didn't mention the obvious Detritus redeco of Hound.
    And the Tracks/Wheeljack mould is ideal for a ton of possible figs (and I must admit, Getaway is not one that I would have considered). Springing to mind straight away are Road Rage, Slicer and "Marlboor" (natch), Runabout and Runamuck. I'm sure I could think of a lot more if I put my mind to it.
    Also Windcharger should make a decent Zap/Windbreaker.
     
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    I hate repaints. :p 

    Actually, I generally do avoid repaints but I do make exceptions where some characters are concerned.

    I'd suggest the following:

    Existing:
    Classics Grimlock > BW Megatron
    Darkmount/Skullgrin > G2 Megatron
    Classics Megatron > US release of Takara's United Megatron. This seems like such a freaking obvious choice, Hasbro! Make it happen already!
    Soundwave (WFC) > Blaster
    Jetfire or Thunderwing > Jhiaxus
    Alpha Trion - I don't really have a suggestion on what to repaint/retool, I just want a commercially-released G1 'toon homage Alpha Trion toy that isn't a convention or collector's club exclusive.
    Scrounge - See Alpha Trion

    And heck, they could do ALL of the Stunticons based on Classics deluxe molds -- I've been wanting Deluxe class Stunticons for years:

    Sideswipe/Sunstreaker/Red Alert > Breakdown* and Wildrider
    RTS Jazz > Dead End
    Classics Optimus Prime > Motormaster
    Classics Mirage > Drag Strip (US commercial release, please)
    *Yes, I know Breakdown was a Botcon exclusive. I want a commercial US release with G1-accurate colors.

    And FYI: this fan has already done the legwork for you on Thunderwing/Jhiaxus, Hasbro:

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    I agree that minor retools are expensive, but seeing how Hasbro has started thinking ahead with the Generations/RTS line and creating retools such as Tracks > Wheeljack (as well as Drift>Blurr, Darkmount>Skullgrin, etc.) I felt that it was clearly doable.

    That's the point of this thread, to point out the obvious repaints, and to figure out which obscure G1/G2 characters should have their own orignal molds and which figures should just be repaints (with possible slight retooling). I'd like to see what everyone comes up with for possible repaints for the Throttlebots and Ominibots. Also, what combiner characters could be repainted as "pre gestalt" figures (like Dragstrip being a repaint of Mirage or Wildrider being a repaint of Rodimus).

    Also, I wonder if I should composite people suggestion into the top list?
     
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    RTS Perceptor as soundwave
     
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    Good one. I would definitely buy that.
     
  9. ChrisW

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    Assuming only straight repaints:

    Classics
    Bumblebee: lots of repaint possibilities. Green, Blue, Gold, etc.
    Classics Starscream: Sunstorm, Slipstream, more Rainmakers, AMTC :D 
    Classics Mirage: red repaint (diaclone homage)
    Universe 2.0 Bluestreak: blue/grey repaint (diaclone homage)
    Universe 2.0 Hound: repaint into Swindle, Rollbar
    Universe 2.0 Ironhide: repaint into Skids
    Universe 2.0 Sunstreaker: repaint into Dead End or Wildrider
    Reveal the Shield Tracks: red repaint as Road Rage or Overdrive
     
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    Doesn't HAVE to be straight repaints. Also, if you think a figure deserves a new mold say it and then suggest what repaints/retools could be made off of it.
     
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    What's depressing is all these fantastic ideas would have to wait until we've been deluged with another year and a half of Bayformers coming this summer.
    Having said that I'd like to see some more Combaticons to go with Onslaught
    Hound - Swindle
    Warpath - Brawl
    Astrotrain - Blast Off
    Blades - Vortex
     
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    They're doable because they thought ahead and included the "retools" on the mould from the get-go. After the mould's already been made, changing it gets expensive.

    So if we're going for actual practical suggestions, then redecos based on existing figures should only include parts from the existing moulds.
    Obviously you'd be able to 'retool' the theoretical future moulds (like your Trailbreaker/Hoist jobbie, par exemple) as much as you like.
     
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    Existing:
    *Wreck Gar > Junkyard, Scrapheap
    *Perceptor > Soundwave
    *Jazz > Stepper
    *Cheetor > Tigatron
    *Jetfire > Skull One Valkyrie inspired deco
    *Windcharger > Tailgate

    Theoretical
    *Runamuck > Runabout
    *Hoist > Trailbreaker
    *Arcee > Paradron Medic
    *Brawn > Outback
    *Beachcomber > Sandstorm

    Yeah, I know, not super creative.
     
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    I'd be into those big time!
     
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    Alpha Trion from the Scourge mold..
     
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    I'd hope Brawl, Blast Off and Vortex get new, or are repaints of new molds...
     
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    Devcon from the Scourge mold (new head).

    Guzzle from the PCC Heavytread mold.

    Rotorstorm from HFTD Tomahawk.
     
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    Black Jack from Windcharger or Rodimus.
    Brainstorm from Silverbolt. Saw a great photoshop of it once.
    Cloudburst from Jetfire. With a new helmet that homages the shell.
    Powertrain and Ironworks from G2 Prime's head remold.
    Spark/Gurcruncher from upcoming Warpath.
    Kick Off from Prowl.
    REV from Sideswipe.
    Ox from Ironhide.
    Freeway from Tracks.
     
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    I like Cloudburst from Jetfire, REV from Sideswipe

    Kick-Off would seem to me be better from Jazz than Prowl and Freeway maybe from Windcharger?
     
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    Darkmount to Impactor
    Drift to Deadlock (uses Blurr's guns but Drift's head.)
    Optimus to Cybertronian Ultra Magnus (new head)
    WFC Soundwave to Cybertronian Blaster (head remold and spikes removed from front.)
    Thunderwing to Bugly
    Warpath to Guzzle
    Perceptor to Soundwave
    Wreck-Gar to a G1 Oil Slick.
    G2 Laser Prime to "Black Convoy" (can't be called Scourge since there's already a Scourge)
    Lugnut into Skyquake
     

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