which to me, was just fine. because it kept batman being a rather mysterious figure. which is what i felt like they were going for in the dark knight as well. just didn't do it as well.
Yea thats my problem with Returns, Batman is BARLEY seen throughout the movie until the end. Also I don't like how we know little about Batman in the Burton movies. He doesn't feel like a developed character with a personality in the old movies. Batman Begins develops Bruce Wayne/Batman so we know his life and actually care what happens to him. Same with The Dark Knight. I know what this character is like which makes me care. In the Burton movies its cool how he is mysterious but if anything happens to him its like why should I care he a cool dude but I didn't personally know him.
i know a lot about the burton batman. he's paranoid, he has no problems with letting Napier kill a corrupt police officer, he may, or may not of dropped Napier, he has rooms in his house he's never been in before. giant rooms. he has dates with women he's never met before. HE wants people to talk about him, but doesn't want his photo taken. he wants to be a rumor, and stay hidden. i get the idea that this Batman isn't just doing it for vengeance, but out right revenge. he's far more of a psychopath then the Nolan batman is. Nolan's batman is a far more down to earth character. While I get the idea that Tim Burton's lives in his own little world. i think there is more to Tim Burton's Batman then you are giving credit for.
he stood there, and watched Jack kill Eckhardt. and he did nothing. it happened in the movie. he has zero problem with jack killing Eckhardt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rl552uj9rE 1:50 minutes in. approx.
I think psychopath is a bit harsh to describe Burton ' s Batman. And he wasn't out for pure revenge until he connected that Napier was one that killed his parents.
ehh he isn't a complete psychopath, but i would say he is one. after all, he is murdering people. dressed as a giant bat.
Punisher murders people dressed with a skull t shirt. No one calls him a psychopath. Likewise, James Bond but no skull shirt. Hell, the entire cinematic Avengers team is made up of heroes more than willing to kill. Killing villains whether dressed in costume or not does not mean a hero is psychopathic. I think both Burton and Nolan portray obsessive nature of Bruce ' s crusade in different ways. Burton's bruce is the more classic brooding but do it yourself Batman. He build his bat mobile and batwing. He made an awesome bat cave before going out in the world as batman. Nolan's bruce is just as obsessive, so much so that he'll take whatever shortcuts and help he can receive. So much so that he burns himself out after a year.
lol i call him a psychopath too. Punisher is very much a psychopath. or do you think normal people go around murdering people?
You say it like these are just innocent people walking down the street. I guess you think soldiers are psychopaths too since they go around vaguely murdering people.
i'm not going to get into that. because I was once a soldier. and i can't comment on that without getting political.
You don't have to get political to simply admit that killing bad guys doesn't make a person a psychopath.
lol in order for me to answer your second part of the question, i would of had to. batman is not a soldier. he is not a cop. he is a self-appointed law enforcer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ULSvR6hhyI normal people do not do this. and smile.
In addition to killing bad guys, the Punisher is also known for killing jaywalkers and litterbugs. Peter Parker, The Spectacular Spider-Man Vol 1 82 - Marvel Comics Database
and in the movie he convinces Travolta's character to Spoiler kill his gay best friend, and his wife, by making them think that they were having an affair. the guy also turns his car into a armored vehicle. and according that article, he is also a hypocrite. Killing people who do any offense, yet, ignore the fact that he, himself, is committing murder. it does not matter if the people are guilty or not. Murder is Murder. Cops can't just strap bombs to people and smile as they explode. the world does not work that way. Thus the character ONLY works, if you consider him a psychopath. Same with the Tim Burton's batman.
thats how you see it. what I see is that Batman going into hiding when jack went for his gun. Still in hiding as jack kills Eckhard and batman comes out of hiding after jack pulled the trigger., but he wasnt standing and watching the entire act. no one? I've read physiological papers that do so. i've seen characters in universe call him that.
i am confused on how you see that. he fires, and batman is literally right there, when he turns. batman is easily with in stopping distance. i see no way anyone could interrupt this scene in ANY other way. and even if you DO interrupt it, it is still batman, going into hiding as Jack aims his gun at cops. instead of DOING something about it. either way you look at it. he still let the guy get killed.
Or he was forced to let Napier shoot him because Bob the Goon still was in pistol range of Gordon. He may have let him die, it was to protect Gordon. He waited just long enough to let Gordon get clear of Bob. nah, Burtons batman must just be a raving psychopath, rolls eyes.
