Character Disappearances

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  1. Russian fan

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    I don't think that it is confirmation - we are arguing about his fate for 3,5 years. If he would be dead - they would say about it in AOE!
     
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    No, it implies something more. They disappeared Sometimes it is even worse then death. You feel uncomfortable with this thought and the Movie conveys it very good. They lost contact with each other, they are isolated and don't hear anything from friends and haven't possibility to clarify what's happened with them. They even didn't know about Ratchet, but he was very important member of the team. Interesting that Lockdown killed him, not Cemetery Wind, but Autobots didn't know that. And, honestly, I'm fond to all Autobots, regardless of how much screentime they got. Comics and my brain fill the gaps.
     
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    Oh for the love of.......The ONLY confirmed Autobot deaths are:

    Jazz
    Arcee
    Elita-One
    Jetfire
    Ironhide
    Que
    Ratchet
    Leadfoot

    The comics and cards (not seen in AOE) are NOT canon to the movies PER BAY!

    Topspin and Roadbuster are both alive. Sideswipe was more than likely the third Transformer seen in silhouette with them in Cuba. I'm willing to bet Dino, Jolt, Chromia and the twins are still alive and also probably in Cuba.

    As Bay said, "If you didn't see it happen onscreen, it didn't happen".
     
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    You forgot about Arcee
     
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    I think Bay confirmed she was dead.
     
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    you are free to have your point-of-view & i like where you are coming from & actually agree but just for the sake of argument because i genuinely enjoy this topic: my counter would be that the twins literally appear in dotm but are absent during the exile scene while all the other known alive autobots from that film are there...implying they were killed off-screen during sentinel's betrayal (but we know the real story)

    as for dino, roadbuster, & sideswipe...cemetery wind had to kill more than just ratchet & leadfoot one would assume....i see nothing wrong with labeling all of the missing ot autobots who disappeared ambiguously dead until proven otherwise...for example i had wheelie, barricade, & topspin all marked as dead prior to tlk but their surprise reappearances in that film obviously changed all of that...for me, the same goes for swipe, buster, & dino...if they ever appear again (dino has no chance but the other 2 just may) then they are back living
     
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    I think it would diminish the significance of Lockdown and Cemetery Wind too much if Ratchet and Leadfoot were the only ones they killed. It's not about hating Autobots so much as making things significant.

    Exactly! I'm not saying none of the robots survived other than the Pathetic Dirty Foursome and Prime. Obviously Topspin and a few others, whose identities are unknown, got asylum. However, I don't think all of these characters should just reappear either.

    I think we can safely say the Arcee components are dead though.
     
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    She wasn't killed she was injured on the battlefield from a missle to the he shoulder ,elita 1 was shot right in the head
     
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    @Awesomepow no sideswipe didn't kill the dreads ironhide did
     
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  10. Awesomepow

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    True.But I just like SS more for some reason.Oh,Dino did kill?Ok,but still.

    I think it is confirmation.

    Yeah,disappearance can be worse than death.

    The cards are canon imo.Topspin is dead.He's Volleybot now.Bay lies alot anyways.

    Arcee is dead people.

    True,but CW is junky.
    Chromia isn't dead.

    Chromia lives!

    They did together.Watch DOTM again.
     
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    And didn't mirage and bee kill hatchet, the four-legged dread as well?

    My best guess is that a character that disappears is dead, unless otherwise indicated in a future installment, with the exception of barricade, whose disappearing at the end of movies is becoming habit.
     
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    Yeah,Barricade makes that rule false.
     
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    I think that, because barricade was the first character to disappear and come back, the writers continue having him do that as an ongoing joke.

    But, now with a tfcu, any character can disappear to have a movie around them, id they so choose.
     
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    True...
     
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    The problem with using things outside of the movies to come up with a character's fate is we end up having to pick which outside source is right and which outside source is wrong. The movies, the comic books, the toy bio, and all the other movie related products have a different take. We've had times when we clearly saw a character die on screen in the movie only to have a Hasbro toy say oh the character is still alive because it's kind of hard for Hasbro to sell dead robots.

    There are times when it would have been nice for the comic books to be right because Reign of Starscream seemed like a better next step than Revenge of the Fallen. But in a weird way it's just like back in ye old days where the cartoon would say one thing, the Marvel comics would take a different take, and sometimes the paragraph on the toy box would take a different take than either one of those sources. It's like Transformers always ends up with alternate universes we just don't have a neat numbering system like DC comics does.
     
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    True.
     
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    My same thought exactly.
     
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    I think we can chalk it up to popularity armor. :lol  If the character is not popular then they are cannon fodder.
     
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    Even if she doesn't die in that exact shot, it's likely she got wasted shortly afterward. Also, given the events of the last few films, I seriously, seriously doubt she is still alive.

    The Arcee triplets, regardless of which individual ones were shot down or not in RotF, are meant to be connected to each other very strongly. I think they were all meant to be dead regardless of who was shown actually getting killed.
     
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    Honestly, they would have just straight up shown these characters in Cuba if they were alive. Those two silhouettes were actually just Junkheap btw.
     
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