So..Bay dropped alot of characters.This thread could be used for theories on these disappearances. Scalpel A. Scalpel was housed inside Ravage when he was killed by Bumblebee. Debunk: None.Soundwave did hold Ravage,Reedman,and Scalpel in his chest. B. He was on the destroyed Decepticon ship in Chicago. Debunk: Megatron clearly values Scalpel,he wouldn't place him on such a vulnerable ship. C. He was one of the Lensmeters Megatron squashed. Debunk: Megatron clearly values Scalpel,he wouldn't be so reckless. D. The Decepticons finally revolted due to Scrapmetal's misfortune. Debunk: They would have revolted when the order was first given.Besides,Scalpel is Megatron's top doctor. Dino Roadbuster Igor Scorn Strafe Skids A. ROTF backlash reduced him to merely a cameo in DOTM. Debunk: He had to continue living somewhere. Mudflap A. ROTF backlash reduced him to merely a cameo in DOTM. Debunk: He had to continue living somewhere. Jolt Chromia Reedman A. Reedman was housed inside Ravage when he was killed by Bumblebee. Debunk: None.Soundwave did hold Ravage,Reedman,and Scalpel in his chest. Thanks, Awesomepow
Dino and Sideswipe and Roadbuster at least have a darn good explanation as to where they went. Elita-1 was almost certainly killed in Egypt. Igor and Jolt...who knows. The Twins were not in the finished film due to all of the backlash from their antics and appearance in RotF.
my rule is...comics are canon unless the films overrule them: this takes care of the twins, reedman, jolt, & chromia (i assume you meant chromia as elita-one looks like she is killed in rotf (but who knows, check out barricade) igor was apparently long haul's head...dunno what happened to him..i woulda had him fight brains & wheelie..woulda been cool! scalpel basically was shown to be a 'protoform' level bot so his importance became lessened in dotm...(he coulda been one of the drones megatron squashed for all we know) implied dead until proven otherwise: dino (we know he aint coming back) roadbuster (if he was gonna come back, you'd assume it'd be in tlk with topspin) sideswipe..there's soft confirmation he is dead (heck, cemetery wind had to kill somebody!) what about the forgotten half of the dinobots & the hatchlings! amazingly, they still have too many active autobots despite this culling..im assuming the knights will be a one and done set of characters (at least i hope they are..they were rather boring & superfluous in my opinion)...not sure what the heck they are gonna do with the pointless mini-dinobots (seriously, why?)
Oh yeah,thanks. Yes Chromia.Oh yeah,good theory on Scalpel. Yes that was the word I was looking for. We can't say that,cause we have no evidence CW/TRF got near them. What? Yep.
I'll assume he's hiding somewhere. But if he doesn't show up until the end of bayverse, then he must be dead somewhere somehow
The movies established the idea that the Transformers are world wide instead of just conveniently clumped together into two groups so unless someone in the movie says they are dead then I'm going with the idea that the character is somewhere too far away from the main action to be part of the film. Kind of like if you watch a World War II movie set in Europe you know there are Japanese soldiers fighting in another part of the world even though you don't see them in the movie. Since Prime and Megatron aren't very good leaders perhaps robots get tired of their leadership so that's why we don't see them the next film.
While I do agree that a trading card saying he's dead doesn't mean much, by the same token I have never understood why some fans want Sideswipe to be alive so much either. AoE strongly implies that Autobots who didn't turn up were killed by Lockdown and allies.
Cool or not, he's nowhere near as well characterized as the Autobots that replaced him, and he was kind of generic just like any version of Sideswipe. I don't know why anyone would want Sideswipe and Dino over Drift and Crosshairs.
Sideswipe is better than Drift. Sideswipe killed the Dreads.Drift killed Onslaught and some KSI drones.Lame. Though I do prefer Crosshairs over Dino. Dino killed nobody,Crosshairs killed Onslaught and some KSI drones.
How is killing Onslaught and the KSI drones more lame? Furthermore, I'm not talking about kills. I'm talking about their characters and personalities. Drift is a wisdom-spouting sage who cares deeply for his leader, for whom a warrior's code of honor is important, and who is helpful and courteous most of the time but also has his moments of hypocritical violence. His relationship with his other Autobots is shown on screen multiple times. Compare that to Sideswipe, who is just a generic badass. Sideswipe is not even close to being a Drift. Dino did kill a generic Decepticon in Chicago by himself actually.
