Can TF PRIME = G1?

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  1. bellpeppers

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    Well, it looks like they are finally starting to retcon PRIME into WFC / Exodus.
    Some differences will take longer and require more work to erase than others tho.

    For those who don't know what I am referring to, go read up on the Spoilers in the PRIME forum.

    Now, we all know that WFC was originally a G1 game according to its creators before HASBRO decided to shoe-horn it into PRIME.

    Exodus reads like G1.

    Aaaannnddd... some of the spoilers read like some things from IDW's TF:Ongoing.

    (Now, some might not consider IDW to be G1... but I do so that can be another discussion for another time)

    However, PRIME doesn't share the look.

    So aesthetics aside, would it bother anyone to consider TF:p RIME yet another type of G1 offshoot in the same way TF:Ongoing is a G1 offshoot?

    Or is the aesthetic enough to separate it in people's minds?

    To me, it's just starting to jumble together as 1 that just looks different.
     
  2. Thundercrackers

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    They're not Retconning WFC into Prime, JUST Exodus/Exiles. Why can't we just seperate the two? As for the astetic, we can't see what the characters in the book even look like.
     
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    Prime has it's own universe and characters, nothing to do with G1 in any way, shape nor form. At least for me.
     
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    I think that something would have to be creatively done to tie it into G1, as in pull the past from G1 into the show (much like it was done in Armada to an extent). Also, while we've only seen glimpses into the past of TF: Prime, we have seen them, and they are not the same as G1. I also don't have a problem with Prime and Megatron being the same characters in both. I can even buy Soundwave to an extent. Bumblebee being a beeping mute even could make some sense. However, it really starts to end there, as characters like Arcee and Starscream are very different in some ways.

    tldr = I think it can be done, but really only to an extent, but it still doesn't solve the mess of trying to make it all one story. Doing so would require a lot of creative ways of addressing some things.
     
  5. aeleven

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    G1 had alot more characters and the storywriter was better. TF prime is improving but they need atleast 10 more villains and heroes.
     
  6. bellpeppers

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    I'm not sure people are understaning where I am coming from-

    To me, G1 does not end with 1984 comic and Toon... to me G1 also includes IDW's TF:Ongoing. [continuity family]

    So Hasbro would also have us believe that WFC (which looks like G1 because at one time it WAS G1 [continuity family]) is also PRIME (which does not look like G1).

    And now we are seeing how PRIME is being tied into EXODUS (whic was pretty darn G1 and HASBRO insists is also WFC and PRIME).

    Sooo... I guess in my mind- to make sense of it all- I would have to conclude that TF:p rime is also in the G1 continuity family (regardless of looks. Just ignore that, I guess).

    Otherwise, we disregard HASBRO as blowing smoke about their whole aligned contnuity thing and just take everything as their own entities.
     
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    Wrong on both counts. Prime has better writing and doesn't need 10 more heroes and villains. Too many characters results in little characterization and depth, something that G1 suffered greatly from. Sure, Prime could use more characters, but not ten more characters for each side.
     
  8. Thundercrackers

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    Even though Exodus may have started as a G1 story, it's become a cornerstone of the Aligned Continuity that Hasbro wants to be a TFuniverse-the ONLY TF universe- for thier transformer fiction going forward (outside of lisecensed stuff like the botcon comics, the IDW comics, any future live action movies, etc.) They never metion stuff like "Continuity families", only fans do. So hasbro probably just sees it as one universe, one timeline with minor contradictions- not a set of universes grown from the same base. G1's only relation to this new unverse is the aligned continuity draws from G1, just like it draws from all previous generations.

    If fans want to make Prime, Exodus/Exiles and WFC seperate canons in thier minds, that's perfectly fine. But they'll just have to ignore as Hasbro has them all line up with each other and makes events in each fit together as time goes on. Much as DC did with the Crisis on Infinite earths, out of a Transformers Multiverse I think we now have one Continuity, one timeline, one universe... going forward from here on out.
     
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    And here I thought of TF: Prime as a continuation of the Movieverse.
     
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    G1 is far too different to be able to mesh properly with TFP and vice versa.
     
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    No. Separate continuities are separate and it causes less headaches that way.
     
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    I hope not, not because G1 is untouchable or anything, but just because that sounds like an incredibly clumsy and needlessly complicated thing to do.
     
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    If you're talking the comics and Furman, then yeah. Otherwise, lolno.

    Do this and migraines are less likely.
     
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    I hope I didn't come arcoss as rude oranything in my post, it was late last night.

    But personaly I think you can fit them together any way you want to,with any continuity you want to. But I think Hasbro, from all the connections the Aligned contiuity parts are now making to each other, will have the people making the games, the show, and the Novels write the the events in all of them as if they were all one timeline.
     
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    IDW is G1, Prime is not.
     
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    I prefer to keep my separate continuities separate within franchise, and still somehow manage to able to enjoy them (gasp).

    G1, Energon, Prime all separate, all transformers I can i watch and enjoy them all.

    Same goes for Gundam (UC), Gundam Wing or Gundam 00 or any other franchise that does things like this. No need to worry about stitching things together than don't need to be.
     
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    Exodus made sure of NOT describing character designs so it could be forged into whatever they wanted, and since Exiles seems to be making Prime connections... yeah, it's not g1, it's not g1 at all, it's 100% Prime.
     
  18. bellpeppers

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    So... is WFC G1, or is it Prime?

    I think it was a mistake for HASBRO to ram WFC into PRIME; it should have maintained it as a G1 family member and kept the Exodus books as PRIME.
     
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    I believe WFC is G1-inspired. Designs resemble G1 for the most part, and it's full of G1 characters. However, it doesn't really fit into the G1 canon as I understand it (i.e., presence of the Aerialbots, Jetfire switching sides).

    Exodus, on the other hand, seems to be all the continuities smashed into one for purposes of creating the "Aligned Continuity". And it would appear that Prime is being based in this continuity.
     
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    I think the mistake was ramming WFC into Exodus, specially since there's stuff happenin in WFC that happens in the same "time" as Exodus... that doesn't fit with the book and Prime at all.

    WFC should've kept as g1 fanwank and that was it, really.
     

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