Call of the Primitive Unicron Origin

Discussion in 'Transformers General Discussion' started by CZ Hazard, Nov 26, 2009.

  1. CZ Hazard

    CZ Hazard Sons of Unicron PTT

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2009
    Posts:
    6,224
    News Credits:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    227
    Likes:
    +119
    I remember watching this as a kid and thinking it was dumb, but that's possibly because I'd read the UK comic #150 and its version of Unicrons origin which was fairly mind-blowing to an 8 year old.

    My question is: Does anyone, even the most hardcore of G1 cartoon fans who think Transformers begins and ends with the Sunbow animation, really buy the cartoons explanation for the origin of Unicron and consider it canonical?
     
  2. Opticron Primal

    Opticron Primal Comin' up OOOs!

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2007
    Posts:
    10,340
    News Credits:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    216
    Likes:
    +5
    No. He's a celestial entity. The Satan to Primus' God.

    There's no way in hell I'm gonna buy that he was built by a monkey.
     
  3. Aernaroth

    Aernaroth <b><font color=blue>I voted for Super_Megatron and Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2004
    Posts:
    23,504
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    347
    Likes:
    +131
    Considering they're two different continuities, and not everyone read the comics, I'm sure there are at least a few people who subscribe to the idea of Unicron as a science project gone horribly, horribly wrong.
     
  4. Mechafire

    Mechafire Veteran TFW2005 Supporter

    Joined:
    May 9, 2008
    Posts:
    24,150
    News Credits:
    30
    Trophy Points:
    291
    Likes:
    +33
    Agreed. I'm not exactly a supporter of the supposed Quintesson origins for the Transformers, I mean I can live with it, but the origin for Unicron was just ridiculous in the cartoon. I much prefer the "gods" origin.

    But fanfic makes all that go away. ;) 
     
  5. UltraMagnus3786

    UltraMagnus3786 That's what it is

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2008
    Posts:
    2,095
    Trophy Points:
    172
    Likes:
    +2
    i'm not a fan of the deity explanation. however, the monkey theory is also lacking...

    i prefer that unicron was created by someone/something, or just existed (as some negative polarity by-product of producing a universe, or of two stars colliding). like when in the 86 movie he emerges from those stars. monkey pet project was a little underwhelming.
     
  6. Chris McFeely

    Chris McFeely Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2004
    Posts:
    4,480
    News Credits:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    222
    Likes:
    +52
    While the actual character of Primacron is distinctly underwhelming, I don't outright object to Unicron being someone else's technological creation. It's very much in-line with everything else in the Generation 1 cartoon. The Transformers are machines, built by the Quintessons. Vector Sigma isn't magic and doesn't grant the fragile flicker of life that is a spark - it's an advanced computer that programs them. Unicron is a robot built by an alien. The Transformers can just build more Transformers. It's all very much "science gone wrong", rather than "God decided to make robots".
     
  7. Optimus Sledge

    Optimus Sledge Yar har fiddle di dee

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2008
    Posts:
    7,925
    Trophy Points:
    176
    Likes:
    +0
    Uh, yeah. I do. Mainly because the cartoon origin of Unicron makes sense rather than just saying "Oh, he's a god." I don't see how that's mind-blowing at all.
     
  8. Recall

    Recall Player Select

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2006
    Posts:
    6,129
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    211
    Likes:
    +2
    When its written up like that, it totally makes it a more interesting origin. Its a shame the cartoon presented it in such an odd and dissapointing way. Saying that though wasn't Call of the Primitives the episode with the awesome art style?
     
  9. Optimus Sledge

    Optimus Sledge Yar har fiddle di dee

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2008
    Posts:
    7,925
    Trophy Points:
    176
    Likes:
    +0
    No, it was the one where everything seemed to have been done in an anime style for no reason.
     
  10. Recall

    Recall Player Select

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2006
    Posts:
    6,129
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    211
    Likes:
    +2
    It was a vast improvement imo.
     
  11. Draven

    Draven Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2002
    Posts:
    23,860
    News Credits:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    286
    Likes:
    +5
    I never liked the cartoon origin at all. Comic origin all the way for me.
     
  12. Attacker_Prime

    Attacker_Prime Optimus Prime forever

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2009
    Posts:
    1,028
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Likes:
    +0
    This.
     
  13. Atlas Prime

    Atlas Prime holdin up cybertron

    Joined:
    May 22, 2009
    Posts:
    193
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Likes:
    +0
    i try to ignore season three happening and instead the movie being the last of g1 followed by beastwars
     
  14. Gingerchris

    Gingerchris Telly-headed Tyrant

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2005
    Posts:
    14,691
    News Credits:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    262
    Likes:
    +41
    So good I bought two copies. :) 
     
  15. ninety

    ninety NERDS!!

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2007
    Posts:
    3,182
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    151
    Likes:
    +2
    The comics are my personal canon, so I go with their origin for Unicron.

    Celestial being not Munky.
     
  16. CZ Hazard

    CZ Hazard Sons of Unicron PTT

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2009
    Posts:
    6,224
    News Credits:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    227
    Likes:
    +119
    Yeah, that never really worked for me either. I'm not saying either is right or wrong, but to me the idea of Transformers being soulless automatons who only think they're alive really doesn't work for my idea of the Transformers franchise.

    Which is odd, considering that's generally how I view humanity :) 
     
  17. robvega214

    robvega214 Mp5_Brut

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2008
    Posts:
    1,154
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Likes:
    +0
    i actually enjoyed the animation in this episode......i expected the followin episodes to look the same.......heh....
    the story was more along the lines of WTF
     
  18. Draven

    Draven Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2002
    Posts:
    23,860
    News Credits:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    286
    Likes:
    +5
    Same here. Got one signed by Simon as well. :) 
     
  19. CZ Hazard

    CZ Hazard Sons of Unicron PTT

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2009
    Posts:
    6,224
    News Credits:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    227
    Likes:
    +119
    The rarest item in my collection is an Infiltration #0 which ISN'T signed by Simon Furman.
    Not many of them in the world ;) 
     
  20. Takeshi357

    Takeshi357 "Research"

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2007
    Posts:
    4,545
    Trophy Points:
    172
    Likes:
    +19
    Shame on you.

    Season 3, to me, was just a season where the bad episodes were really bad but the good ones were even better.

    I mean, for every Surprise Party, you have The Burden Hardest to Bear.
     

Share This Page